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‘Emotionally Fragile’ Friend of Kobe Bryant’s Accuser Says Alleged Victim Had Emotional Problem
ABC News ^ | 07/14/03 | Staff Writer

Posted on 07/14/2003 10:32:41 AM PDT by bedolido

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To: cinFLA
Check out post #4. Eggsackley first referred to her as a possible "nutcase."

Accuracy counts.

FWIW, there's a BIG difference between commenting on the "subject" of a posted story, and commenting on fellow freepers.

21 posted on 07/14/2003 3:28:47 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Accuracy counts.

I was accurate to the post I responded to.

22 posted on 07/14/2003 4:16:40 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
Please. Always stay as sweet as you are.

Promise?

23 posted on 07/14/2003 4:37:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: bedolido
Starlene??!! (gulp)
24 posted on 07/14/2003 4:38:48 PM PDT by ewing
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To: EggsAckley
There is nothing in Bryant's past to suggest he is the type to 'attack' a woman, as is claimed in this story. If they were involved in some sort of activity and it went too far, maybe. But 'aatack' makes it sound like it was sudden and violent, whether physically or sexually. I find that difficult to beleive.
25 posted on 07/14/2003 4:44:26 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
She IS a nutcase...any way you look at it.

So does Kobe always go around preying upon "nut cases"? Does he always take advantage of similarly minded women?

26 posted on 07/24/2003 8:30:05 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
When did you stop beating your wife?
27 posted on 07/24/2003 10:14:06 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
When did you stop beating your wife?

Oh...I didn't know that there was any reasonable doubt that Bryant initiated this whole thing.

He didn't invite her into his room, then, eh?

Oh, of course...how wrong of me to conclude that Bryant was the initiator in this thing...obviously the 19 yr old teen girl was in control of the whole thing. Ya know when you're only talking about a multi-millionaire celeb who is a prime guest (where the customer's is for certain always right), who was he to fend off the advances of this mere teen-ager?

28 posted on 07/24/2003 10:23:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I deliberately chose the words "preying upon" and "taking advantage of" because they are ambiguous enough to cover both adultery as well as rape (since I'll wait for the facts to come out).

So, no, my conclusion is not already 100% drawn. (Altho, at least I haven't been arrested for abusing my wife)

While sports celebs don't exactly have to prowl around for women in a world of sports groupies, it doesn't sound to me like she qualified as a groupie.

If it was only adultery, he was still a sexual predator seeking to take advantage of her. "Consent" only removes the criminal element of this, not the moral stigma attached.

29 posted on 07/24/2003 10:29:42 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
If Bryant had gone to her room, seeking her out, you'd make more sense.

As it stands now, this unstable 19-year-old "American Idol" wannabe who attempted suicide weeks ago and bragged to her friends about her encounter with an NBA star, requested to bring room service to Kobe.

What service was actually being offered is anyone's guess.

Kobe's an idiot and an adulterer, but not a rapist, IMO.

The girl is a fool who was not raised with enough morals and smarts to know she shouldn't enter a strange man's room in the middle of the night.

A product of the MTV/Will & Grace generation.

30 posted on 07/24/2003 10:42:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The girl is a fool who was not raised with enough morals and smarts to know she shouldn't enter a strange man's room in the middle of the night.

Are you consistent? Where were you when the Clintonistas needed you? You should have been, as wideawake said on a thread yesterday, "accusing Juanita Broaddrick of being a whore for going to the hotel room of a celebrity adulterer."

I guess you would describe Broaddrick the same way, eh?

31 posted on 07/24/2003 10:46:16 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
No, "consent" removes the possible life sentence in prison for Kobe.

For you to equate adultery with rape is mind-boggling. And proof of the over-wrought inconsistencies of those defending a stupid girl's indiscretion.

32 posted on 07/24/2003 10:49:06 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
For you to equate adultery with rape is mind-boggling. And proof of the over-wrought inconsistencies of those defending a stupid girl's indiscretion.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were an eyewitness who was there. Perhaps you better mention that to Kobweb's attorneyS. You could be valuable to them...

Unless, of course, you weren't there and you're merely pontificating upon something you know very little about...which could qualify you for the July 24 Kobot Kobhead award for spin meistering...

But could that be true for one of your integrity?..nah...I don't see how...it must be that if you're not an eye-witness, you're omnipresent and/or omniscient...yes, yes, that must be it! Do I bow now or do you first give me some prophetic scriptures about your messiahship?

33 posted on 07/24/2003 11:02:42 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Broaddrick was raped by a psychopath who went to the then-sitting governor's room in broad daylight after Clinton had told her he needed to shuffle his appointments for that day. Clinton held the power to accredit her nursing home business, and there were body guards with guns stationed at the hotel room door.

There was nothing in that set-up that would give a woman reason to question the situation.

Additionally, she left the encounter bleeding and immediately told two people of what had just transpired. She never laughed about the event afterwards and certainly didn't "brag" about it.

And most people paying attention now know that Clinton had a long and varied record of this sort...and worse.

No, I don't think that situation in any way mirrors Kobe's for the reasons I stated earlier.

But your type will continually push all the emotional buttons, even if they have nothing to do with this case, and you'll consistently ignore the evidence of her instability and questionable motives.

I think your agenda is not at all what you state it to be.

34 posted on 07/24/2003 11:03:04 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I think your agenda is not at all what you state it to be.

I was right. I knew it. You're omniscient, after all. You've seen right through me. (Please don't tell anyone else...my hidden agenda is precious to me).

35 posted on 07/24/2003 11:06:58 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Please don't tell anyone else.

That'll be easy. You got it.

36 posted on 07/24/2003 11:24:28 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Colofornian
Do I bow now or do you first give me some prophetic scripture about your messiahship?

When it becomes clear all you've got on your side is lame sarcasm, the debate is over.

Talk to yourself, and be nice. You know you bruise easily.

37 posted on 07/24/2003 11:29:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: EggsAckley
She did seek some medical help," Bray says. "She knew she needed it, so she went and got it. She was definitely emotionally fragile, but I don't think it had anything to do with what happened," she said.

Is her friend refering to the suicide attempt as the help "she went and got". Or did she seek some help before her suicide attempt? Is her freind saying she saw a doctor after the suicide attempt?

38 posted on 07/24/2003 11:47:38 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
She IS a nutcase...any way you look at it.

Why do you say she's a nutcase?

39 posted on 07/24/2003 12:28:53 PM PDT by the infidel
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I comment on a foolish young woman's stupid indiscretion of entering a stranger's hotel room late at night...

You mean you commented on a hotel concierge entering a guest's room, quite possibly at his request. That happens at hotels around the world on a frequent basis. Sexual assault, though, is not an appropriate means of protest or self-defense by a guest if said guest felt intruded upon.

40 posted on 07/24/2003 12:32:57 PM PDT by the infidel
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