Treason: Horowitz v. Coulter

Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | 7/11/03 | Bruce Walker

[nopardons]

I'm sorry, I don't know who Ed Markey is. Is he a man ? Men CAN and DO get breast cancer. It's something few men know about.

[MEG33]

Google Ed Markey.He is a congressman from Mass.His site has a letter sent to Bush about the "unreliable evidence" and a press release.Gag!

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Perhaps the lexicon of the New Left is helpful. During the 1960s, those timid souls who feared the real power of communism called themselves “non-communist” as opposed to “anti-communist”or “communist.” In the war against communism, Republicans leaders were “anti-traitors” and Soviet agents in America were “traitors.” What then were the Democrat leaders? How about calling [them] “non-traitors”?

Ping for a very good piece on Treason.

[unspun]

Thanks. For the record though, I don't recall hearing the phrase "non-communist."

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

I don't recall hearing the phrase "non-communist."

I think the writer is coining the phrase as a method of damning the least offensive Democrats with faint praise. To be "non-communist" is also, in his scheme, non-anti-communist--i.e., no part of the solution to the real problem.

A failure which is damning in anyone aspiring to be a leader.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

You did read the conclusion of Treason, didn't you?

[u-89]

Living through an era and having a great memory, is better, sometimes, than reading a history book

I concur whole heartedly. Being born in 62 I missed some of the subtleties of the era that didn't get recorded in the proper light for posterity (court historians are notorious). The larger percentage of my studies has been the first half of the 20th century though I am not unaware of what happened in Viet Nam I do not claim anything close to expertise in it. While focusing on one particular era I have not neglected the rest of history but there are not enough days in a human life span to know it all. In my field I have interviewed literally hundreds of W.W.II vets and spouses as well as a large number of W.W.I vets and of course branched into life in general back in the day and always inquired of the Depression. These personal accounts are a priceless addition to whatever information books offer. Encountering lots of guys who were in Vet Nam has given me some interesting perspectives to the war but the era was never my course of study and as mentioned in the one post I have a natural aversion to Kennedy's - perhaps it's because of the cult of personality that surrounds them regardless of the loathsome personal traits they each had. Also the more I read about Johnson or the whiz kids the less appealing the prospect of new knowledge became. What tragedy results to innocent pawns because of the ambition and folly of their hubris "betters".

[jocon307]

"The motivation was simple: swing the increasingly close election to Hubert Humphrey by creating an the impression that peace was at hand. Who paid the price for that political pragmatism? America and the South Vietnamese, who were deprived of critically important air power."

And, er, good old HHH, Himself, no?

[Grampa Dave]

Pinging the book by Ann and the revival of Tail Gunner Joe as a man to be feared by communists then and now!

[u-89]

I never understood the appeal of Jerry Lewis. Can't write it off as just a French thing though - seems plenty of Americans bought tickets to his movies.... but at least we don't have a street named for him in the capitol(yet). Though admittedly Washington will never be seen culturally as Paris has been historically so it is far worse for them to have such a street.

[unspun]

What is concerning in America at this point, is not only Marxists per se, but how all sorts of materialist, egocentric philosophies and motivations have crept into our national life -- ever pushing out the God-based reality understood by our nations's founders.

[DPB101]

Catch the thread this morning about how most Americans do not believe the president about the reasons for action against Iraq?

It is probably true too. For almost two years, RATS have waged a propaganda war against Bush taking any action to defend America. This sickening poll is their damage assesment.

Those conservatives attacking Ann Coulter should get their head of out their ass and realize we are fighting people today just as dangerous, just as treasonous as those RATS who armed the Soviet Union with atomic weapons.

RATS don't play by any rules. They will do anything to win. Tut-tutting over Coulter daring to speak truth to treason feeds, strengthens and emboldens the RATS.

Coulter isn't the problem, Bush isn't the problem, even Savage--over the top as he might be--isn't the problem. RATS are the problem. If we don't fight and defeat RATS now, , there will be another 9/11, America will become a third world country, our freedoms will be encroached upon even further and any hope of regaining what America once was will be lost.

[Eva]

That's the general idea of the "big tent".

[Eva]

You missed the point entirely. Horowitz does not personally fear the religious right personally, he fears the effect that they could have on the "big tent" of the Republican party. I am aware that he has nothing but disdain for for the religious right and I also never meant that to suggest that Ann Coulter is part of the religious right. What I said was that she aimed her book at lighting a fire under the religious right to fight the philosophic war with the left.

Like I said on another post, Ann was singing to the choir, preaching to the congregation (moderates) and outraging the sinning leftists.

[Grampa Dave]

Too many who claim to be conservative will attack our people instead of the rats who are the problem.

We are in a cultural war at home. If we lose that cultural war, we have lost this country and what it stands for.

Thanks for reminding us of that with these on target words:

"RATS don't play by any rules. They will do anything to win. Tut-tutting over Coulter daring to speak truth to treason feeds, strengthens and emboldens the RATS.

"Coulter isn't the problem, Bush isn't the problem, even Savage--over the top as he might be--isn't the problem. RATS are the problem.

"If we don't fight and defeat RATS now, , there will be another 9/11, America will become a third world country, our freedoms will be encroached upon even further and any hope of regaining what America once was will be lost.

[Grampa Dave]

Too many who claim to be conservative will attack our people instead of the rats who are the problem.

We are in a cultural war at home. If we lose that cultural war, we have lost this country and what it stands for.

Thanks for reminding us of that with these on target words:

"RATS don't play by any rules. They will do anything to win. Tut-tutting over Coulter daring to speak truth to treason feeds, strengthens and emboldens the RATS.

"Coulter isn't the problem, Bush isn't the problem, even Savage--over the top as he might be--isn't the problem. RATS are the problem.

"If we don't fight and defeat RATS now, , there will be another 9/11, America will become a third world country, our freedoms will be encroached upon even further and any hope of regaining what America once was will be lost.

[Grampa Dave]

Too many who claim to be conservative will attack our people instead of the rats who are the problem.

We are in a cultural war at home. If we lose that cultural war, we have lost this country and what it stands for.

Thanks for reminding us of that with these on target words:

"RATS don't play by any rules. They will do anything to win. Tut-tutting over Coulter daring to speak truth to treason feeds, strengthens and emboldens the RATS.

"Coulter isn't the problem, Bush isn't the problem, even Savage--over the top as he might be--isn't the problem. RATS are the problem.

"If we don't fight and defeat RATS now, , there will be another 9/11, America will become a third world country, our freedoms will be encroached upon even further and any hope of regaining what America once was will be lost.

[Eva]

You missed the point entirely. Horowitz does not personally fear the religious right personally, he fears the effect that they could have on the "big tent" of the Republican party. I am aware that he has nothing but disdain for for the religious right and I also never meant that to suggest that Ann Coulter is part of the religious right. What I said was that she aimed her book at lighting a fire under the religious right to fight the philosophic war with the left.

Like I said on another post, Ann was singing to the choir, preaching to the congregation (moderates) and outraging the sinning leftists.

[Consort]

Why would Horowitz want "good" Democrats included in a book about treason?

[DPB101]

I guess Horowitz is afraid RATS might be offended. RATS might not like Republicans. RATS feeling might be hurt because Coulter didn't mention some Democrats fought communism.

Oh...I forgot. Coulter did mention that. Several times. Horowitz just claims she didn't.

So I dunno what his freaking point is.