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BREAKING: Conned big time "CIA Witness" to White House Lying about Intel story found to be FRAUD
Capitol Hill Blue ^ | July 9, 2003 | Doug Thompson

Posted on 07/09/2003 4:04:00 PM PDT by Doug Thompson

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To: Miss Marple
Somehow I think that this guy Joseph Wilson is in on this crusade of lies. I've read what he has said about being sent to Niger to find out about the possibility of Uranium sales to Iraq and there are several problems with his story.

Wilson claims he was sent to Niger by the Vice Presidents office, and yet he says he reported back to the State Department or the Cia, I can't remember which, but anyways, why would he report to anyone other than the Vice Presidents office if they were who sent him on this mission.

Something is really smelly about that story as well.

Then we have this guy Thielmann who is described a retired director of State Department weapons intel,(or something like that), in many news outlets, and in other publications they call him a retired staffer from the State Department.

My head is spinning :-)

881 posted on 07/10/2003 11:12:27 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Sabertooth
I saw the article when it was up at Japan Today.

At the bottom, it attributed the article to Truthout.

882 posted on 07/10/2003 11:12:51 AM PDT by William McKinley (From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
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To: cyncooper
I emailed him last night.

There is always 'open line Friday'... any Freeper care to call Rush?
883 posted on 07/10/2003 11:13:11 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Doug Thompson; PhiKapMom; Ragtime Cowgirl; William McKinley
As you know, your article is far more serious an attack on POTUS than a typical, partisan hit-piece. It reveals you as having a brass-set, a "get Bush" agenda, and likely, a long and festering hatred for POTUS.

Without the work of FR and namely FReeper William McKinley, (our resident Sherlock Holmes) would you have bothered to write a retraction/explantion, however weak and CYA it was? Of course not.

It's cavilier and sloppy journalism to rely upon one single source, particularly when the hit-piece is so radio-active and the subject so serious.

Now we learn from you that you have been duped for 20 years by your "phantom" source. Incredible!

With all due respect, Mr. Thompson, it is my sincere hope that you are not a part of a concerted effort to bring-down POTUS, but your hit-piece has already sprouted a few legs.

I know for a fact, that both your orignal article and your explantion/retraction have been sent to the RNC, and, hopefully, passed on to the WH for review.

884 posted on 07/10/2003 11:13:43 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Mo1
Adding to the mystery:

Doug's Apology Letter of 7/9/03 stated: "When I left politics and returned to journalism, Wilkinson became a willing, but always unnamed source.

During the last couple of years, Wilkinson served as either a primary or secondary source on a number of stories that have appeared in Capitol Hill Blue regarding INTELLIGENCE activities."

From this, I infer quite a time span of source use for the elusive Wilkinson, but only the last couple of years in INTELLIGENCE.

From Doug's follow-up letter of 7/10/03 regarding unnamed sources:

Doug's source was used 7 times in CHB, from 7/02 until 7/03. He was unnamed in 6, and he was named Terrance J. Wilkinson in one. Note that 6 stories only were removed from the CHB database, dealing with INTELLIGENCE.

If Wilkinson were used as a source over the 20 years, those stories seem not to have been deleted; only those dealing with INTELLIGENCE.

And this means ... ??

885 posted on 07/10/2003 11:14:25 AM PDT by Pegita
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Rush is ticking me off if he knew about the original CHB column and discussed it and now has ignored the HUGE implications of the follow-up.

Now he said it is "almost like we don't want to catch terrorists". What the HELL (excuse my language) is he talking about? In a way it was a reference to the clinton years, but he is definitely implying that the Bush administration is carrying on the same policy, which is demonstrably false.

886 posted on 07/10/2003 11:14:29 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Sabertooth
"More importantly, will Rocky be able to defuse the bomb and still save Bullwinkle as he plummets down Frostbite Falls?"

ROFLMAO

887 posted on 07/10/2003 11:14:46 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Pegita
BUMP!
888 posted on 07/10/2003 11:15:34 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
I would love to see the final investigative results into this guy "Wilkinson". Probably turn out to be old snake head himself.

Exactly what I was thinking. I've also been pondering on who the "she" is (the "friend on the Hill" in Thompson's retraction) who allegedly said Wilkinsen is bogus. Any ideas?

889 posted on 07/10/2003 11:15:37 AM PDT by arasina
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To: cyncooper
Why would Rush wait until the end of his show to discuss this? I'm beginning to think that he is clueless regarding these new developments, but I hope that I am wrong about that.
890 posted on 07/10/2003 11:15:45 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: onyx
Excellent. I would like to know the exact connection between Thompson, Pitt, and (of all people) Scott Ritter. Perhaps the White House will be able to find out.
891 posted on 07/10/2003 11:15:47 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Sabertooth
Re. #812, agreed. How do you deal with this Senate Judiciary Committee? Did you follow the Estrada case? The Dems. lied, Big Time, repeatedly, one after another. Sen. Hatch, as firey as he was, was flummoxed after a time. The press, of course, didn't report the truth - that no Senate Judiciary Committee has ever behaved this way. The Founders could foresee most everything, but not, I think, today's dishonorable DNC - or the power of the mainstream media.

The MTV teens helped Doctor Raoul "Freep" the NY Times after the Jayson Blair story broke. Rush, Sean, FN...FR are reaching people, but the mainstream propagandists are able to control the agenda because they not only control the American mainstream newsmedia - they are global. The Dems. aren't going left because their base is leaving them, or because the GOP is moving left, they're siding with the EU and international global organizations - for POWER'S sake.

When Pfaw and the NAACP protest Miguel Estrada, they have the endorsement of Castro, Chavez and Chirac. When the DNC-press pushes yet another socialist program, they receive free international positive press - and support, both political and $$$.

Clinton intentionally undermined our sovereignty by giving the UN and international NGOs unprecidented say in US international policy. Hillary continues her husband's 'work' - pledging her loyalty (and the loyalty of the Dem. party) to the international socialists - even as the President works to strengthen alliances with nations outside the influence of Chirac, Kofi, EU...and Clinton. They have a mighty pen. They will join together to intentionally undermine America on the world stage - for power's sake, even after 9-11.

Divide and conquer is their specialty. I'll support the wimpiest Republican if he's the only one willing to run - to get a 60 vote majority in the Senate. Changing "hearts and minds" won't happen overnight.

The Republican Party was formed to prevent the expansion of slavery into the west before the Civil War. Republicans went south to help free the slaves, and they were lynched along with the slaves they helped free - by the DEM. Ku Klux Klan. Dred Scott was a Dem. response to the GOP fight against slavery. This is all documented in spades. Yet, our press, our schools, our entertainment establishment has the power to keep the myth of Republican racism alive for all these decades. It started with the Communist Party.

Ann Coulter's right.

892 posted on 07/10/2003 11:16:33 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (We're in a global war on terrorism..If you want to call that a quagmire, do it. I don't.*Rummy* 6-30)
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To: Miss Marple; nopardons
Someone, and I don't remember who, posted a theory here some months ago that there was a clandestine war going on in the US between the Clintonistas and their allies, and the Bush people. I thought that theory was a little bit over the top, but I am beginning to wonder if it might not be truer than we think.

Weren't there articles about how Clinton himself rallied European opposition to the war during a tour, which cited several of his phrases criticising Bush showing up as quotes from foreign leaders?

After reading all of this thread, the only thing that leads me to believe that Terrence J Wilkerson isn't made-up, is that there are several posts which have shown very like anonymous sources that have hit other newspapers over the last month with apparently false mysterious insight. Mr. Thompson could still have made up an anonymous source that sounds like common quotes, but it gives me pause.

893 posted on 07/10/2003 11:17:10 AM PDT by lepton
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To: Miss Marple
Me too!
894 posted on 07/10/2003 11:17:20 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
I tend to agree he isn't aware of the latest development rather than deliberately ignoring it, but STILL it is aggravating. sigh

:)
895 posted on 07/10/2003 11:19:39 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: onyx
I sent this story and all links about this story to at least 20 news outlets and shows, as well as the RNC, Sen. Frist, Whithouse, Tom Delay and Sen. Warner
896 posted on 07/10/2003 11:19:50 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
There is always 'open line Friday'... any Freeper care to call Rush?

Rush is going to be at another one of his "super secret" meetings. Roger Hedgecock will be filling in.

897 posted on 07/10/2003 11:20:08 AM PDT by mombonn (Have you prayed for our President yet today?)
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To: MJY1288
My head is spinning too! If this is ever printed out in a timeline, identifying all the significant (and even bit) players, be sure and ping me to it, okay?
898 posted on 07/10/2003 11:20:13 AM PDT by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor.)
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To: Doug Thompson; All
It takes skill to get people on the record, but it's worth the time. Credibility matters.

I'm sooooo tired of reading liberal papers that quote an unnamed Republican who is "oh so ready" to trash other Republicans. I seriously doubt most liberal reporters are close trusting friends with the Republicans they love to trash.

Ever notice how all the "mistakes and lies" type press scandals are written about conservatives or groups aligned with conservatives? The other press lie category is hyping a liberal cause and victim group to make them look more needy and pathetic. ( Burning churches - 8 year old heroin addicts).

Has anyone seen a false story that trashed a liberal? Or made a liberal group look bad?

I suspect, like the Nazi press, they're careful when reporting about fellow liberals (Nazis), but not to careful when reporting about conservatives (Jews). Double standard?

899 posted on 07/10/2003 11:20:56 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Doug Thompson; All
It takes skill to get people on the record, but it's worth the time. Credibility matters.

I'm sooooo tired of reading liberal papers that quote an unnamed Republican who is "oh so ready" to trash other Republicans. I seriously doubt most liberal reporters are close trusting friends with the Republicans they love to trash.

Ever notice how all the "mistakes and lies" type press scandals are written about conservatives or groups aligned with conservatives? The other press lie category is hyping a liberal cause and victim group to make them look more needy and pathetic. ( Burning churches - 8 year old heroin addicts).

Has anyone seen a false story that trashed a liberal? Or made a liberal group look bad?

I suspect, like the Nazi press, they're careful when reporting about fellow liberals (Nazis), but not to careful when reporting about conservatives (Jews). Double standard?

900 posted on 07/10/2003 11:20:57 AM PDT by GOPJ
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