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BREAKING: Conned big time "CIA Witness" to White House Lying about Intel story found to be FRAUD
Capitol Hill Blue ^ | July 9, 2003 | Doug Thompson

Posted on 07/09/2003 4:04:00 PM PDT by Doug Thompson

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To: ArneFufkin
Hey, look how Lytel gets money! I fond this in the Rochester, N.Y. paper by doing a google on Lytel and democrat:

March 31, 2003) — A former Clinton administration official will share a $1.4 million settlement from a New York nonprofit Internet access company accused of misusing federal grant money from the National Science Foundation.

David Lytel, who served as an adviser to the Office of Science and Technology Policy during the Clinton administration, filed a federal whistleblower lawsuit against NYSERNet in 2000.

Lytel was NYSERNet’s president between April and August of 1998 but was fired when he questioned the handling of a federal grant, said his attorney, Washington, D.C.-based lawyer Bonny Harbinger.

Seems very strange to me.

1,141 posted on 07/11/2003 3:06:26 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
That's one for The O'Reilly Factor.

This has Clintonian scandal written all over it. $1.4 million as a whistleblower? He served FOUR MONTHS in a management position at that company. Direct from the White House to a firm that was misappropriating Federal Grants. Which he then exposed. SURRRRRE!

Lytel got his start in Ithaca, NY. Gadfly TLBSHOW lived in Oneonta, NY. Mere coincidence? LOL!

Any Freepers who say there is no difference between the Clinton and Bush Administrations needs to be ZOTTED from this forum immediately, no matter how long they've been here bitching, whining and not contributing one penny to fund raising campaigns.

1,142 posted on 07/11/2003 3:21:03 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Miss Marple
Fox and Friends, Lauren Hill just reported that the White House (Bush) lied. They picked up the original story without the retraction.

I emailed them but I hope others will too.
1,143 posted on 07/11/2003 3:23:38 AM PDT by goosie
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To: ArneFufkin
Well, it seemed to me that this was a convenient way for Lytel to get some cash. I didn't think it was too believable, myself.

I think the Clinton crowd spent every waking second thinking of ways to skim money from the government, donors, foreign lobbyists, and any crook they could find.

I wish I could remember about Lytel's wife. I think she had some connection to something important as well, but my memory is failing me.

1,144 posted on 07/11/2003 3:25:31 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ArneFufkin
According to post # 6 he didn't sell it.
1,145 posted on 07/11/2003 3:26:41 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: goosie
Will do.
1,146 posted on 07/11/2003 3:26:54 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: piasa
Didn't see that. Thanks.
1,147 posted on 07/11/2003 3:30:21 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin; piasa
Heck, we don't know if it was ever under consideration for sale to begin with. Or was it sold but everyone was told that it wasn't? I can't believe anything the guy posts any more.

Was it a ploy to panic readers of his site so that they would kick in money? Or was it sold but Thompson mistakenly put the new owner's name on the net and so they made him come up with a statement that it wasn't sold after all?

Something fishy about that deal, in my opinion.

1,148 posted on 07/11/2003 3:48:50 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: nopardons
BRAVO ! You get it ... you really, really, REALLY get it. :-)

That is high praise, and I am honored, especially in light of its source, but I must confess that there are many times I wish I didn't get it.

Facing the reality of our times is something for which I only occasionally have the courage, and I constantly finding myself hoping that my assessment of things is some how terribly wrong. A strange motivation that, but in the stormy times in which we live, any shelter offers more comfort than none at all.

Perhaps this desire or need for shelter from the fury of naked reality underlies the fundamental problems which confront humanity now, but that is a trait we are unlikely to change.

Having waxed poetic on the topic, however, nonetheless leaves the most important question unanswered:

Just what the hell do we do now?

1,149 posted on 07/11/2003 4:03:25 AM PDT by Imal (The currents of history are running strong and swift through our time.)
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To: Dog
Lying will get 'em two weeks of community service for the Demorats and a $1.00 fine.

/sarcasm

1,150 posted on 07/11/2003 4:07:40 AM PDT by maestro
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To: goosie
Fox has just reported that the White House has denied the CBS report. According to the WH, the CIA in fact approved the uranium story before Bush's state of the Union speech. I think I heard them say that Rice made this claim within the last hour.
1,151 posted on 07/11/2003 4:12:05 AM PDT by egomeimihi (current law student at Seattle U)
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To: redlipstick
I have seen Wilson on TV.
1,152 posted on 07/11/2003 4:12:33 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Miss Marple
Who is William J. Lowrey? Supposedly the spokesman for the new consortium of journalists who bought Capitol Hill Blue, I find it odd that I could only find such a name in the 19th century in Pennsylvania.

Have I missed a post which identifies him? Considering the spate of questionable items in this fiasco, I really would like to know.

1,153 posted on 07/11/2003 4:15:13 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Carolinamom
Is ANYONE he names (other than the President) an actual, factual person?
1,154 posted on 07/11/2003 4:18:15 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: egomeimihi
I saw that. They changed it from the 6:00 report.
1,155 posted on 07/11/2003 4:21:28 AM PDT by goosie
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To: MEG33
Thanks for your thoughtful posts.Thielmann also stated the White House was using "faith based" intelligence.That is a slam at President Bush for his beliefs.The man has an agenda.If he disagreed,fine,but don't make it personal.He made statements a grade school student could disprove by reading the news.

Thank you for your kind words. I interpret Thielmann's agenda as anything but personal. I believe it is political, and, perhaps more significantly, ideological. While his slams have a jocular nature reminiscent of classic James Carville material, it is the theme underlying his words that almost deafens me when I read his essays.

The people for whom he works have succeeded in doing what the Devil and Keyser Soze of The Usual Suspects fame managed to do: convince the world they do not exist. Even suggesting that they do will have you labeled as a tinfoiler and a paranoid schizo. And yet, as Galileo would put it, "Still, it moves!"

Thielmann is nothing more than a footsoldier in a long, global war. And he is not on the side of America. I feel like an idiot sounding like such an alarmist, but these times are far more dangerous than even those of the height of the Cold War, under whose apocalyptic threat I have lived most of my life.

Too many pieces are coming together, and the picture revealed by the puzzle taking shape isn't a pretty one. If you follow the tendrils up from operatives such as Thielmann, the beast you confront is one whom you would never wish to see in the light of day, or in your darkest dreams.

But I digress. Thielmann and his fellow travelers identify themselves with the words they use. You may know evil by the fruit it bears. Beware. Do not be fooled by their lies, for lies are their weapon of choice, and they are a powerful weapon, indeed.

And the only weapon that is effective against them is the light of truth. Wield the truth without hesitancy, lest we lose it forever.

Melodramatic words, perhaps, but I assure you, appropriate to the mortal, and immortal, threat we face. Again, I feel silly saying it like a character in a novel, but there it is.

1,156 posted on 07/11/2003 4:25:33 AM PDT by Imal (The currents of history are running strong and swift through our time.)
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To: Miss Marple
Nothing seems to be verifiable. Only conclusion IMO is that it is all a LIE which is spreading like a pillowful of feathers.....next to impossible to pick them all up. One Clintonista-style mea cupla (not my fault, somebody else caused me to do it) and using still more unnamed sources simply does not register as TRUTH.
1,157 posted on 07/11/2003 4:25:50 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: MEG33
Do you remember what show or network you saw him on? I'd like to dig up a transcript and compare it to the NYT column.
1,158 posted on 07/11/2003 4:35:34 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: Carolinamom
Fox and Friends now stating that President Bush says the CIA signed off on the SOTU.
1,159 posted on 07/11/2003 4:36:53 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
I don't,sorry.
1,160 posted on 07/11/2003 4:38:15 AM PDT by MEG33
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