Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
In the case of the ocean limestones, it tends to be chock-full of marine fossils. They die. They sink. Other stuff falls on top. More stuff falls on top of that.
Maybe eventually conditions change and deposition stops. What was sea bottom is lifted up so that surf and tides wear on it. Some of the sediment wears away, but maybe not all. Maybe it eventually becomes tidal swamp, with a different kind of deposition layered over what was the bottom half of the original limestone layer.
What tends to happen is that any given slice of geography has periods of deposition. There's missing data between the layers. This happens because just locally erosion predominated for a time. (But you can fill in the picture by moving around and sampling lots of places around the area. You compare and correlate. Dig A might show a layer between layers which are successive in Dig B simply because there was less erosion at the site of Dig A.
This is elementary geology. Shame they didn't cover it in a college-level intro course.
This is also good example of how there's no way the geologic column anywhere in the world looks like one big flood.
It would be interesting to create a computer model of such an event and see what comes up.
Now, somebody might be offended by that. Where Is Jesse's number?
I'm funny that way...I tend to get riled when elitist oppressors try to tell me how to live my life or raise my children.
If you want to teach your kids however you want, it's FINE with us, for god's sake Ex you need to get a grip.
I have a grip...on my rights under the U.S. Constitution. I think you evolutionists need to get a grip on what individual freedom is about.
But, if you choose to have your children educated in Public School, expect them to be taught science, no matter how much it upsets you.
Yes, a scientific theory is mandated by the govt. - so much for freedom of thought. Can you think of another that is?
Evolution will be taught in science class, not next to ID though, because ID has not shown itself to be science, by a LONG shot!! As a matter of fact, it hasn't even tried.
That's your opinion based on your naturalistic presuppositions. Parents have a right to tell you to go jump in the lake. If 20 million parents did that, you all would have to surrender as you can't put 20 million people in jail. That day is coming when people will stand up and tell you to stuff your theory where the sun doesn't shine. The position of evolutionists is: Darwinism is science because we say it is, and nothing else will be taught in govt. schools because we say so.
Gore accused me of removing key parts of an article for which I posted the link.
Yes, and Robert E. Lee referred to unionists as "those people". Call Jesse - I have something to say to that racist as well.
Really? If that is all it is, WHY is it the only scientific theory mandated for teaching by the U.s. govt? Answer the question.
exmarine: I have authority over my own kids (you don't have any legitimate say over my kids) and if there were any justice in this nation, I would have a say over what is taught IN MY COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
I would hope you would want them to know more about science than you do, but that's clearly far from the case. Your kids aren't just your pets. Other people have to deal with your failure to educate them. And how big is this "community" where the standards are established? Is it every town that polls its citizens and sets its own textbook standards? Every county? Is it done at the state level? (It apparently is in Texas.) Whatever it takes before the Witch Doctors win something, somewhere?
exmarine: If the majority of parents in any given community anwywhere want the curriculum changed, who are you to say they can't? It's their community.
If they want to teach the kids the Wicca religion instead of science, is that OK? Community standards and all that.
VadeRetro: But who are these big money men funding the Discovery Institute to go into Texas and stir up this issue? Are they from Texas? Have you checked?
I think you completely whiffed on this one. Want to try for strike two?
I did no such thing. Show me where I did that.
Sometimes I feel sorry for you guys, I really, really do.
Feel sorry for yourself. You are ignorant of the U.S. Constitution and the freedoms extended therefrom.
Failure to teach Genesis in science class is not teaching atheism. If you're talking about anything else, please explain yourself better.
The original Patrick Henry lived and died before Darwin published his theory. Of course he was a creationist. Virtually everyone was in his time. But I think that if he were alive today, brilliant fellow that he was, he would be persuaded by the evidence. How do I know this? He told us so:
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves ...
From the famous "Liberty or Death" speech, March 23, 1775
Concepts totally sublimated, hard to breathe this rarified philosophic air.
You being unaware of elementary geology does not equate to geology not existing.
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