Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

[bondserv]

I agree.

It is amazing to contemplate that the Creator of the universe chose to use the spoken and written word to provide a message to us. And as I am sure you are familiar the Bible says "that Word became flesh". The story came to life so that there would be no confusion about how much the creator, who is so far beyond us, loves us.

Try explaining to an ant the complexities of a computer. Most people don't realize how far He is above our tiny intellect. After all He created all of the laws that we have spent millinia discovering. We are just beginning to scratch the surface of our reality.

There is so much still to learn about atoms, dimensions and the underlying fabric of our existance. The jury is still out on so many areas of understanding.

[whattajoke]

It's an inner ear thing, which I wait patiently for scientists to explain via the evolutionary mechanisms.

Actually one of the more understood morphologies. A simple google or library search will help you out better than I can. When you do that, and then respond with "Every thing says it is 'likely' or 'probably' which isn't good enough for me." I will then beg the question, "why is our hearing so poor relative to the some of other mammals? Why did god shortchange us here? And aside from hearing, you mention balance... again, why did god shortchange us here as well? I mean, if we're the best he could do, you'd think he'd have hooked us up with super hearing and balance, right?)

The miraculous balance to life is another mind boggler.

Agreed. Mind-boggling yes; supernatural, no.

The balance of a sphere on a tilt that produce life inducing seasons to replenish fresh water to the land.

See, it's when you get all poetic that you run into more problems. Are you aware that some of the most biologically diverse areas on earth do not experience seasons at all? You can do better than this...

[js1138]

God musta loved the bacterium. He made so darned manyof'em ...

God musta loved the bacterium. He made so darned manyofem

[f.Christian]

... 3 - d glasses --- ready ?


Evolution is a denatured seed - colony ...

a hopeless dichotomy ---

rotting (( all manmade - artificial - PLASTC )) !

Here's a crash course in eschatology (( future events )) ...


"Thus 9:24 and 8:14 point to the same reality---the kingdom of God ignaugurated at the first advent and consummated at the second."

To: Aric2000

You know nothing about science (( history )) or the bible ... just tacky rants !

It seemed that indeed the truth would be 'forever on the scaffold, and wrong forever on the throne'. With great eagerness he listened to the query, 'How long shall be the vision?'(Daniel 8:13)."
Daniel and the Coming King

Chapter 16

The Gospel In Daniel 9:24

By Dr.Desmond Ford

"It would be tragic if we contented ourselves with an analytical examination of this passage of Scripture. It is not merely a scintillating gem to be admired, but the bread of life to be eaten. It consists of 'the everlasting gospel' in minature."

"That which should concern us all the more than the issues of hermeneutics is the issue of life---our life. Not minutiae of prophetic interpretation, but sin, sorrow, and death constitute our problems. Daniel 9:24 assures us that the world is a ship and not an iceberg, that God is intensely interested in our dilemma, and, best of all, that He has done something to extricate us from the apparent cul-de-sac of existence. In Christ, the Melchizedekan King-Priest, He has brought in everlasting righteousness, freely offered to all who believe."

Chapter 14

Daniel and the Coming King---Daniel 9

By Dr.Desmond Ford

"Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest of scientists prior to the modern period, wrote a commentary upon the prohecies of Daniel and Revelations. He desribed Daniel 9:24-27 as "the foudation-stone of the Christian religion" because centuries in advance it gave the time of appearance of the Messiah and His death, as well as a comprehensive description of His saving work in heaven and earth. The prophecy likewise tells what would be the fate of the Jews consequent upon their rejection of the One whose coming they had long anticpated. The destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, foretold in Daniel 9:24-27, was history's testimony that the offerings and services of the sanctuary had met their fulfillment in the advent of the promised Messiah."

Newton, Isaac. Observsations Upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalpse of St. John. London: J. Darby and T. Browne, 1733 (Isaac Newton)

Chrystalk ...

"All of this while the book itself says it is sealed up, and never will be understood ... until the End of Days --- which we are living in ... "

Chapter 14

Daniel and the Coming King---Daniel 9

by Dr.Desmond Ford @ ... GNU (( link )).

Seal Up the Vision

"The expression 'to seal up the vision' (v.24) should be considered. This expression, 'the vision', occurs eleven times in Daniel 8:1 to 10:1, and in all these cases it refers to the vision described in the eighth chapter of Daniel. The reader is advised to read again the entire passage. In pictorial, symbolic form the prophet was shown the unfolding of all future centuries till the second advent of Christ. The famous empires, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, which long oppressed the people of God, are described; but particular emphasis is given to the persecution of the church during the Christian era and also to the supremacy of the couterfeit, apostate religion over most of that period. Christ's mediatorial ministry in heaven is alluded to, but its eclipse from men's mind through a counterfeit system is fortold. The sanctuary mentioned refers both to the church temple indwelt by the Holy Spirit on earth, as well as Israel's typical sanctuary. No doubt Daniel was dazed by this revelation of the apparent triumph of evil. In his lifetime he had witnessed the destruction of Jerusalem's temple, the center of true religion, and the carrying into captivity of the people of God by an idolatrous and desolating nation. Now in vision he is informed that this state of affairs is to continue on a much greater scale throughout most of the earth's history. It seemed that indeed the truth would be 'forever on the scaffold, and wrong forever on the throne'. With great eagerness he listened to the query, 'How long shall be the vision?'(Daniel 8:13)."

"Now in the revelation of 9:24-27 the mourning seer is told that there is a greater Prince of the house of Judah, a greater atonement, a greater sanctuary, and a greater redemption than any ever before experienced by Israel. The long-awaited Messiah, the Prince, a Priest-King, will take away the sin of the world and end earth's dark night. Thus 9:24 and 8:14 point to the same reality---the kingdom of God ignaugurated at the first advent and consummated at the second."


UNFOLDING (( designeduniverse.com )) !

[Doctor Stochastic]

"Why don't you have a Pepsi?"

[whattajoke]

After all He created all of the laws that we have spent millinia discovering. We are just beginning to scratch the surface of our reality. There is so much still to learn about atoms, dimensions and the underlying fabric of our existance. The jury is still out on so many areas of understanding.

you won't find much argument here from evolutionists at all. I think you'll run into more dissention from your YEC brethren with this statement... For you see, in the YEC world, we already have all the answers, we just need to manipulate (and mutilate) the data to fit them.

[BMCDA]

That looks like the über cyanobacterium.

Actually that's Purple Tentacle^TM but now as you say it, it really looks like the über cyanobacterium;^)

[Doctor Stochastic]

In terms of protoplasm mass, coleoptera weighs in heavily.

[VadeRetro]

Someone made a character out of a tentacle? Just a tentacle? Sort of like the stupid movie about the creeping hand?

[js1138]

I think we have so many because they're so collectable. Long before we had beanie babies, and even before stamps, we had the beetles.

[BMCDA]

Yeah, a tentacle, just a tentacle!!
It's a character (exactly, the one who wants to take over the world) from the LucasArts computer game "Day of the Tentacle" (I think early 90's).

But what is this "creeping hand" movie? Never heard about that (yeah, guess I should watch more TV ;-)

[bondserv]

6 millennia would be 6,000 years. What do those atoms have to tell us about reality anyway?

YEC all the way. Virtual POM POM's shaking violently.

Give me a Y.
Give me a E.
Give me a C.

I still don't think Jesus was confused about the first two people He created. I also think He would have cleared up that geneological mess in the Old Testament if He felt there was one.

Whenever I go against something He said, I am wrong.

[DaGman]

Just what we need. More stupid kids that think Creationism is science.

[JesseShurun]

mathematical design placemarker

[bondserv]

Usefull little critters, eh.

[VadeRetro]

But what is this "creeping hand" movie?

Some real snoozer from the 30s or 40s. Can't think of a list of search terms that would get under 20,000 hits.

[VadeRetro]

Whenever I go against something He said, I am wrong.

Not too remarkable, given your overall showing.

[general_re]

Long before we had beanie babies, and even before stamps, we had the beetles.

[Junior]

If'n you think about it, bacteria are at the top of the food chain -- everything's a meal for them...

[Dan(9698)]

So --- Who set off the Big Bang, and what existed before that?