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Adversaries on Gay Rights Vow State-by-State Fight
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| July 6, 2003
| SARAH KERSHAW
Posted on 07/08/2003 11:11:14 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; Tailgunner Joe; Sabertooth
I can't stress it enough. IT IS A LEARNED TRAIT, IT IS A LEARNED TRAIT, IT IS A LEARNED TRAIT. What's next for them? Pre Natal care for their dirt babies?
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posted on
07/08/2003 1:26:42 PM PDT
by
Seamus Mc Gillicuddy
(ROCK ON NJ FREEPERS!!!! DOWN WITH HILDABEEST!)
To: Dr. Luv; ohioman
"There is just NO reason for this type of hateful vitriol. There is a lot of room in the tent known as conservatism and healthy dialogue is part of our movement."
Generally speaking, this is about as healthy as ohioman's dialogue gets. Most of his posts consist of calling people names and accusing them of being insuffuciently patirotic.
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posted on
07/08/2003 1:29:13 PM PDT
by
kegler4
To: Tailgunner Joe
And don't think that it's just a few right-wingers in Alabama, Mississippi and Texas that don't like the Supreme Court's ruling on the sodomy law. A poll released by Fox News showed that, by a margin of 44%-40%, Americans DISAPPROVED of the decision.
To: Dilly
fair to say most everyone is born hetero. Plenty of conditions in a childhood can lead to a sexual idealization of same-sex persons later on. Some are more inclined than others to go homo in circumstances that another person may just be a messed up hetero. An environmental catalyst to a natural predisposition or something like that.
The fact (and I regard it as fact) is that these people often do not "choose" to be homo; they are walking, talking dysfunctional products of their childhood. In that respect, they shouldn't be castigated as evil, unless they wear their dysfunction like a suit of armor and try to advocate legislation and social policy that legitimizes their dysfunction as a healthy, natural choice They are, in such cases, acting from a position of extreme pain and selfishness, if not outright evil.
To: Dilly
You ignore the social importance of marriage between a man and a woman. Only conventional families and the children they raise insure the long term survival of society.
Sex partners do not equate with heterosexual marriage. Real marriage is a long-term private and social compact of family raising, not just sex. Because of the social benefits, Society has recognized it and granted marriage special status.
Families with children pass on society's good values to their children, defer immediate gratification to store up wealth for their children and stay together for love of the spouse and the protection of their children.
Society benefits by stable families as they, not the state assume the burden of child raising. Society benefits by families' long-term wealth building as there is more wealth for investing in businesses and social infrastructure.
Homosexual and casual sex alliances do not generate wealth building as they live for today, not tomorrow. Children of casual sex do not have two parents to guide and protect them. Most single mothers try hard to raise their children, but only with sacrifice and extra efforts. Look at the wealth statistics for single moms, they don't have the second income source two parent families do.
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posted on
07/08/2003 1:39:38 PM PDT
by
RicocheT
To: RicocheT
Everything you say about why the government protects marriages is true. But nothing you say is a reason for excluding same sex couples (especially those raising children) from the protections of marriage. And nothing you say explains why the government allows people to marry who can not or will not have children.
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posted on
07/08/2003 1:43:28 PM PDT
by
Dilly
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To: No Dems 2004
A poll released by Fox News showed that, by a margin of 44%-40%, Americans DISAPPROVED of the decision. your numbers are crap - link please?
To: Emmylou
And perhaps you prefer Sodom and Gomorrah.
To: Dr. Luv
"There is just NO reason for this type of hateful vitriol. There is a lot of room in the tent known as conservatism and healthy dialogue is part of our movement."
I would never want to be in the same tent as you or Keglar. Like the homosexual lifesyle, that certainly would not be heathly. It also deserves no respect.
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posted on
07/08/2003 2:10:52 PM PDT
by
ohioman
To: kegler4
"Most of his posts consist of calling people names and accusing them of being insuffuciently patirotic."
If the truth hurts..tough shiite. I am also sure that I have never accused someone of being "insuffuciently patirotic."
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posted on
07/08/2003 2:12:19 PM PDT
by
ohioman
To: scripter
please ping the list!
Also, we've missed you!
To: lemondropkid56
don't worry, gomorrah is still illegal.
To: ohioman
"I would never want to be in the same tent as you or Keglar. Like the homosexual lifesyle, that certainly would not be heathly. It also deserves no respect."
Methinks you would be happier in a tent of one...
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posted on
07/08/2003 2:19:52 PM PDT
by
Dr. Luv
To: ohioman
Exactly. The "big tent" my a$$. Yeah, the gop is becoming the big tent alright. Only the high-roller country club republicans are allowed. The sophisticated people don't want us around ruining their image.
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To: ohiopyle
You idiots may get a replay of April 13, 1861 if you don't knock it off.
You don't need to engage in treason against the United States to live in a place where the government supports your views on gays, all you need to do is move. Might I suggest Saudi Arabia, Iran, or the northen regions of Nigeria? I'm sure you'd be very happy in any of those theocracies. Sorry we knocked off the Taliban, I think you would have liked living under their regime.
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posted on
07/08/2003 2:34:15 PM PDT
by
Dilly
To: I_Love_My_Husband; *Homosexual Agenda; GrandMoM; backhoe; pram; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; ...
please ping the list! Here 'tis. Thanks for the ping.
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posted on
07/08/2003 3:03:24 PM PDT
by
scripter
To: All
We know homosexuality isn't solely rooted in biology -
environment is the major factor from where homosexuality is rooted. We also know the choice to engage in homosexuality results in
severe health hazards, yet some here are content to let homosexuals do as they please. The true friend to homosexuals are those who encourage them to leave the lifestyle.
I encourage all to read the links found at The Many Myths of AIDS.
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posted on
07/08/2003 3:19:03 PM PDT
by
scripter
(Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
To: Dilly
I ask you whether people also choose to be heterosexual. Typical homosexual propaganda. Comparing a pathology to normal behavior is ludicrous. Do people choose to be bestials or are they born that way too?
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