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Justice Breyer: U. S. Constitution should be subordinated to international will
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 7, 2003

Posted on 07/07/2003 7:00:07 AM PDT by mrobison

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To: tpaine
Marbury established the doctrine of Judicial Review--which was foreign to the Constitution.

That establishment led to the JudRev of ALL laws (through the 14th) passed by States, in seeming violation of the 9th Amendment.

Marbury has been castigated as a horrendous mistake by a number of informed lawyers of the conservative (not Libertarian) stripe.
421 posted on 07/07/2003 6:22:05 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: FreeReign
Clinton, Breyer -- two peas in a sovereignty-stealing pod.

The pod also includes at least four others Supremes who been signing on to the idea of using European Court of Human Rights precedents.

Although I don't support litmus tests for specific issues, I do think there should be a anti-foreign precedent litmus test. Any future Supreme Court nominee should be asked to promise to never cite a foreign court precedent. Period. If they don't agree, vote 'em down. I think the America people will go along with this kind of foreign precedent litmus test MUCH more easily than a specific issue test such as on abortion or affirmative action. And, frankly, what you will find is that judges who abhor reliance on foreign precedents are the same ones who are likely to be with us on specific cases.

422 posted on 07/07/2003 6:23:24 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: jwalsh07
Well, I guess tpaine is sort of, ah, casual about murder. Hope he's prepared to live with the logical consequences of his statement,

because there IS NO RIGHT to be wrong under our Constitution.

423 posted on 07/07/2003 6:24:05 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: ninenot
Continue to be a mind-numbed Bushbot, I suppose.

You said that with conviction, the conviction of a dedicated, shallow simpleton. Is that the best you can do?

425 posted on 07/07/2003 6:30:18 PM PDT by Consort
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To: jwalsh07

Oh barf.. Oh Gag!

426 posted on 07/07/2003 6:37:58 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: tpaine
-- True enough, you have no 'one' hero.

Make up your mind and don't respond just to disagree.

It is worse. Your ideology reveres the group. --

You misuse the term "ideology", you have no idea what my ideology is and you may very well have a total misconception of what your ideology is. Whatever you're trying to prove, you're not very good at it. Whatever ideology you represent, you are not doing it justice.

427 posted on 07/07/2003 6:41:19 PM PDT by Consort
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To: freedomsnotfree
Then I guess lower Uzbekistan would make it 148 countries ;)
428 posted on 07/07/2003 6:47:00 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: jwalsh07
Whatta retort. - "Cripes".

Like it or not kid, the constitution defends our inalienable right to our own person & privacy.

The state must establish a compelling reason to infringe upon my private bedroom, gunroom, bar-room, bathroom, or any other part of my private property.

You might give some serious thought about why you want local, state or fed governments to have such unconstitutional powers, yourself..
429 posted on 07/07/2003 6:49:25 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
Paine, what can I say? You see an unalienable right to sodomy and an unalienable right to kill the unborn.

You and I operate on totally different planes....

Thankfully.

430 posted on 07/07/2003 6:51:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
You see an unalienable right to sodomy and an unalienable right to kill the unborn.

I do not think that sucking the brains out of a fully developed baby is a private matter.

431 posted on 07/07/2003 6:56:53 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: smith288
>>>U. S. Constitution should be subordinated to international will...<<<

Absolutely wrong. This is worth fighting - in the courts and in the streets.

"....and whether our Constitution and how it fits into the governing documents of other nations, I think will be a challenge for the next generations."

Unknowingly, with this statement, Justice Beyer has started the next war!!

432 posted on 07/07/2003 6:58:41 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark......maybe Clinton will follow)
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To: AndrewC
I do not think that sucking the brains out of a fully developed baby is a private matter.

You mean you don't think that fits under the heading of "transcendent liberty"?

Me either.

433 posted on 07/07/2003 6:59:57 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: riri
Thetrain has left the station and I don't see any turn offs. Let's just go straight to the eye of the storm and get this sh** over with.

Then don't tell anyone about that dime that's on the track just around the bend. Derailments are such fun :-)

434 posted on 07/07/2003 7:01:58 PM PDT by steveegg (Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, air-burst artillery and thermonuclear weapons)
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To: Sabertooth
...I simply said that I didn't blame them for not voting for a President in whom they'd lost confidence. President Bush 41 is to blame for his failure to retain their votes.

They compounded a problem....they took a bad situation and made it worse (like I said). For example, the Bush Read My Lips big tax increase fiasco was compounded by a much bigger Clinton tax increase because people "lost confidence"....got themselves "disaffected"....wanted "accountability".... Well, you don't have to blame them, but I do. Bush made a mistake, but Clinton did it on purpose.

435 posted on 07/07/2003 7:03:56 PM PDT by Consort
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To: ninenot
And, - you're dead wrong on the Marbury decision, -- the last sentence of which says that laws repugnant to our constitution are void.
This hardly establishes that the "US Constitution means whatever the currently sitting court thinks it means."
417 -tpaine-

Marbury established the doctrine of Judicial Review--which was foreign to the Constitution.

Nope. The USSC is so authorized by Art III. - As you well know.

That establishment led to the JudRev of ALL laws (through the 14th) passed by States, in seeming violation of the 9th Amendment.

'Seemingly', only to those, like you, who prefer 'states rights' to our constitutions rule of law.

Marbury has been castigated as a horrendous mistake by a number of informed lawyers of the conservative (not Libertarian) stripe.

Yep, we shoulda killed em all, back in Will's day. But here we are, stuck with them. - The solution?
- Insist that they follow the simple principles of our free republic.
-- Not the single issue politics so many here advocate..

436 posted on 07/07/2003 7:10:02 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: jwalsh07
jwalsh, what can I say? You see an unalienable right to dictate 'law' in my bedroom and an unalienable right to excute the mother who aborts/'murders' an unborn child.


You and I operate on totally different planes.... I honor our constitutional rule of law.

You don't.

437 posted on 07/07/2003 7:19:05 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: rintense
I am at a loss for words.

Truly frightening comes to mind

438 posted on 07/07/2003 7:32:05 PM PDT by apackof2 (Listen much, talk little, learn greatly)
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To: DoctorMichael
Bravo to your letter.

I hope you really sent it.

439 posted on 07/07/2003 7:34:25 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: FreeReign
I pray to God this stirs an awakening in the American people.
440 posted on 07/07/2003 7:50:42 PM PDT by bondserv
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