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God...not G-d

Posted on 07/07/2003 3:50:21 AM PDT by grumple

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To: grumple
I have seen that e-mail before and it is good.

As for the issue of G-d, it is not a sign of disrespect. Actually, it is the opposite.

It comes from the tradition of the Jews being fearful of daring to say God's name. It is a practice done in reverence, with fear and trembling. It is by no means something negative or intended to mock the Lord.

Perhaps we Christians should learn a little reverence and awe at the very name of God and everything else connected with the Almighty.
181 posted on 07/07/2003 3:18:52 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: grumple
It has to do with the nature of the Hebrew etc.

We have become accustomed to one name for God and therefore are not used to it being used only in special occassions.
182 posted on 07/07/2003 3:21:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: hellinahandcart
Christians didn't seem to know that Gee and Gosh are...alterations of "Jesus" and "God", which came into the vernacular as a way of saying those names without actually saying them.

Vulgarities that have worked their way into common vernacular are one of my pet peeves.... it bothers me a little to hear "sucks" in G-Rated common speech.

183 posted on 07/07/2003 3:21:22 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Dustbunny
It makes me think they are using the word G-d because they don't really believe in God.

Ah. So, even after the explanation of the custom, it's still your opinion that Orthodox Jews don't really believe in God.

You must really, really want to hang on to that belief for some reason.

Just my opinion, of course.

184 posted on 07/07/2003 3:21:30 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: grumple
However, the article still focuses on the removal of God and it seems that more emphasis should be put on the Word of God rather than the spelling

Observant Jews are not the ones who dropped the ball, in terms of keeping God front and center.

185 posted on 07/07/2003 3:26:15 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: HairOfTheDog
(*cough*) Well, due to the aforementioned "glass house" principle, I can't complain about anyone else's vulgarities.
186 posted on 07/07/2003 3:27:56 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Guilty of that one are you?

Well that sucks..... didn't mean to make you feel bad. ;~D
187 posted on 07/07/2003 3:28:58 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: zook
Are you Jewish or have you read Jewish theology?

If not, there is nothing weird about that.

I only started seeing it online also, but that is because quite frankly, I do not know a single Jew I have met. I wonder if there are any in my town even sometimes.
188 posted on 07/07/2003 3:29:18 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: hellinahandcart
Good point.

Though I say gee and gosh a lot and don't see anything wrong about it. I am not actually using the Lord's name in vain. That is the sin and I roll my eyes when people tell me "you are really taking the Lord's name in vain when you say gee or gosh." Those people need to stop being so dang legalist.
189 posted on 07/07/2003 3:31:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: grumple
You are an idiot. Jews do this as a sign of respect. Why would this offend you?
190 posted on 07/07/2003 3:49:58 PM PDT by montag813
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To: grumple

Thanks to whatshername for the CATHY comic.

191 posted on 07/07/2003 4:02:48 PM PDT by arasina (America: STILL the BEST! Offering Freedom, Justice and The Pursuit of Happiness Since 1776)
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To: HairOfTheDog
No, they are not talking about God, they are talking about G_d, as though G-d is to be feared. God knows the heart and soul, spelling his name as G_d is a bit silly and immature.
192 posted on 07/07/2003 4:25:22 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (When the government controls all information, they control you.)
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To: hellinahandcart
Listen, you can be an idiot all you want and live your life in fear of God, but the rest of us will just leave the misspellings out of it. His name is God, not G_d. Jeez, you could at least have enough respect to spell it correctly. You do you think you are fooling? God?

"hehe, I spelled it 'G_d' in case I said something bad. He won't notice, giggle."
193 posted on 07/07/2003 4:27:25 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (When the government controls all information, they control you.)
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To: MEGoody
"But I would like to point out that God is not His name, but a statement of His nature"

A very true statement, and, as such, spelling God as 'G_d' actually does nothing in the fact that God is his nature not his name.

Thanks for that clarification. I totally agree.
194 posted on 07/07/2003 4:28:44 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (When the government controls all information, they control you.)
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To: PatrioticAmerican
You keep saying it is out of fear or shame of God no matter how many times you are told you are wrong by myself and others on the thread who have explained it.

They are talking about God, and spelling it G-d because they respect "God" too much to see it on a piece of paper that will become common trash or a birdcage liner. You can think that is silly, but you are deliberately dishonest if you continue to mistate the reason for it.
195 posted on 07/07/2003 4:30:40 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: William Terrell
The "it" in my sentence refers not to leaving out an 'o'. Surely you're not so confused as to imply I was claiming English was 'g' 'o' 'd' was written one way or another for millenia. Check out the 'ineffable tetragrammaton' via Google. Perhaps you'll be somewhat enlightened.

HF

196 posted on 07/07/2003 4:49:05 PM PDT by holden
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To: PatrioticAmerican
I have always spelled it "God", you ignorant malfunctioning uncomprehending little bigot, and at least I never had the temerity to assume what would piss me off "if I were God", as you did. It's not a position you can aspire to, you know.

Particularly not you.

And as long as I'm on the subject, most reverent Christians would capitalize the "h" in "Him", when referring to God in the third person. You didn't, before. Don't think I didn't notice! Trying to bring God down to your level, or something? You tried to project your own bigotry onto Him before, so it wouldn't surprise me.
197 posted on 07/07/2003 5:06:31 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: grumple; E Rocc; Catspaw; solitas; freesia2
I encountered this in the early 70's. I was in a Bible school in a Baptist church with a Rabbi. When we were comparing our notes from the classes, my Rabbi buddy used G-d, J-s, and H-S. He said he considered this a sign of respect, and could not bring himself to spell out God, Jesus, or Holy Spirit. The tetragrammaton was is Holy and should be kept Holy.

I laughed. (We were pretty close friends). I faithfully spell each name out, and cannot bring myself to abbreviate any of them, even for note taking. Again, it is a sign of respect.

We were both sincere in our signs of respect. We decided that Paul's discourse on Liberty (I Corinthians 9 & 10) was applicable here. Besides, that was the book we were studying at the time.
I Cor 10:24
Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor.
Eat anything that is sold in the meat market, without asking questions for conscience' sake;
FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S AND ALL IT CONTAINS
If any of the unbelievers invites you, and you wish to go, eat anything that is set before you, without asking questions for conscience's sake.
But if anyone should say to you, "This is meat sacrificed to idols," do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for conscience's sake
I mean not your own conscience, but the other man's ; for why is my freedom judged by another's conscience?


When I am in an environment where brothers spell God as "G-d" I will do so in order to honor their reverence of God. Jewish World Review is such an environment. When I am in an environment where GOD is used as spelled, I do so. Perhaps it is legalism to use G-d. It really doesn't matter. My liberty in God permits me to do either. My respect for the spiritual needs for brothers and sisters demands I recognize their need to respect Him as they feel led.

Look around yourself at Church next week. Notice how many things are accepted as part of the worship experience in your church, and yet are not required by Scripture. It can be how you dress, it can be how you pray, it can be the language you use in the Church, it can be how you act in the building. We all have G-d thingies that we conciously or subconciously consider holy.
198 posted on 07/07/2003 5:09:21 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant.)
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To: E Rocc
1) Many if not most of the people who write "G-d" do so for religious reasons of their own. They feel there is a religious proscription against spelling out the word "God".

Specifically, spelling out any of the names used to mean "God" on any temporary surface is forbidden in Judaism. A blackboard or a computer monitor would be one of these, but a prayerbook would not be.

But notice how I said "any of the names used to mean "God"" and not "God's name"--because God's true name is supposed to be a big, big secret. Even the Jewish prayerbooks use "Adonai," which isn't really God's name.

But you're still not allowed to put "Adonai" on a temporary surface.

199 posted on 07/07/2003 5:10:48 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: hellinahandcart
you ignorant malfunctioning uncomprehending little bigot

[spit-take]

ROTFL!

200 posted on 07/07/2003 5:25:48 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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