Has she no shame? [Conason on Coulter--Some Men Just Can't Handle Blondes]

Salon ^ | July 4, 2003 | Joe Conason

[Darksheare]

Then you should know about some of the crap that does happen and never gets reported.
So you have no excuse for not knowing what I'm talking about.

[Darksheare]

just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
And it happened again to others during the 2000 elections.
This was on top of the military absentee ballots getting tossed in Florida.
The Colonel walked into our barracks the next day and snottioly said, "How'd you boys like your vote? By the way, your Commander in Chief is STILL Bill Clinton."
I hated that guy with a passion, and hope he's in some dead end slot for the rest of eternity.
He was one of two officers I've met that should never have been comissioned.

[SkyPilot]

So replete is "Treason" with falsehoods and distortions, as well as so much plain bullshit,

I think Joe was drinking heavily again when he wrote this.

[zip]

The whole premise behind Anne Coulter seems to be that since the left is filled with rabid insulting liars whow write poorly like Michael Moore, gosh, we need one of our own too.

Tacky, tacky. You libs hate facts/truth/logic vs "feelings", huh?

[zip]

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am a Republican.

I've got a bridge to sell anyone believing that.

[Mr Rogers]

How do you explain the Cold War consensus, strong Democratic support for the Persian Gulf War, almost no opposition to the war in Afghanistan, and support from most of the candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination for the invasion of Iraq? By the way, Coulter claims that all liberals, including the Democrats in the military, do not love their country and are guilty of treason.

There wasn't a strong Gulf War consensus among Democrat politicians. However, there was enough popular support - over the objections of Democrats - that in the end, most went along. But I remember the debating - and most of the Democrats tried to stop the Gulf War until the poll numbers indicated they were losing.

Almost no opposition to the war in Afghanistan - what planet were you on? Again, the professional politicians could read polls & see which way to go - but the Democrat activists were strongly opposed. The media was swamped with claims that A) we had no right to hold the Taliban accountable, and B) it would be another Vietnam. As usual, liberals were wrong - and wrong on the side of despising America.

I notice you limit your selection of Democrats on this last war to presidential candidates. People trying to win a national election can ill afford to totally ignore the pollls - but look at what Kerry & Dean have said. Kerry has tried to split the difference, and Dean opposed. The more mainstream candidates have no traction - in part because their more centralist views don't reflect Democrat activists who control the nomination.

Bottom line - liberals are ashamed of America, and do not want American values to triumph. Republicans you mentioned generally do so because they oppose a world wide role for America, although (unlike liberals) they believe America is a great country.

Sorry dude, but I've lived through much of this history - and you cherry-pick your arguements while ignoring Ann's point - that liberals hate America & American values.

BTW - this support for Ann is coming from someone who refuses to buy her books.

[Mr Rogers]

By the way, Coulter claims that all liberals, including the Democrats in the military, do not love their country and are guilty of treason.

I'm in the military. I've met Democrats (usually junior enlisted who haven't learned better yet), but I cannot recall EVER meeting a liberal.

There are some Democrats with conservative leanings - usually because they don't know enough about economics to understand that Democrat "compassion" is just hogwash. But the democrat base is Liberal - and Liberals ARE ashamed of America & opposed to the very idea that our values could be judged superior - unless, of course, that 'value' is gay rights or anti-tobacco.

[capt. norm]

"And from this incident you concluded that all Democrats in the military hate their country? "

He was giving you an example and you used that to twist the meaning of his message into something you could dispute.

Were you ever a part of the Clinton administration or did they somehow pass up a good word twister?

Next you'll be debating on what the meaning of the word "is" is.

From your posts, one could only draw the conclusion that, like the liberals, you can't handle the truth so you have to muddy up the debate with lines like the above.

[Mr. K]

yes, but apparently we are not so dumb when blindly following what the left preaches... hmmmmm how ironic

[isthisnickcool]

By the way, Coulter claims that all liberals, including the Democrats in the military, do not love their country and are guilty of treason.

Where is that stated in the book? Oh, you didn't read the book. So, where is that stated in the first 16 pages?

BTW, when you were in school and were assigned a book report how well did this "read the first chapter then draw your conclusions" concept work? Interesting idea but I'm not sure it's a good technique if you are "reading" the Bible. Or a book on car repair. Or first aid. Bomb making. Etc.

[Woahhs]

okay...you are engaged in nothing but gainsaying and caviling.

Earlier you challenged anyone to name a democrat that got thrown out of the party. I have a name for you...Pete Casey!

Yeah, you can pettifog the point that he was never thrown out, but when the Democrat Governor of the largest state under Democrat administration can't speak at the party's convention...it's a distinction without difference...like most of your defenses on this thread.

[Thumper1960]

Are you still pissed that Soviet spies and useful idiots were exposed as being in the Roosevelt/Truman State Departments? Liberals usually support foreign Left-wing movements, you know. It's OK to patriotically argue against American policies. It's when you cross the line and collaborate with foreign enemies of this country that you become a "traitor". The facts are very clear. Liberal tendencies are to, at least covertly, oppose US interests and sovereignty by allying with forces opposed to US values and ideals. Ann is right, in her book. You just can't handle the truth. It scares you.

[jpl]

Freedom of association anyone? By the way, this type of thing happens in the Republican Party (i.e., pro versus anti-abortion).

ROTFLMAO. I can name several pro-abortion Republicans just in the U.S. Senate alone. Name one prominent anti-abortion Democrat for me.