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No Catholic Pro-Life Judges Need Apply
catholic.org ^ | 2003-07-02 | Raymond L. Flynn

Posted on 07/03/2003 2:27:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: sinkspur
"Flynn's a johnny-come-lately to the pro-life party,"

How far back are you going? As far as I know Ray Flynn has been viciously attacked by opponents as being strongly pro-life for many years now. In any case, I'll take a convert to the pro-life side anyday. That isn't a bad thing.

41 posted on 07/03/2003 7:10:54 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: sinkspur
"Clarence Thomas was an Episcopalian at the time of his confirmation, and still is."

So what? He was a religious conservative who got skewered by the liberals. FYI, Episcopalians call themelves "Catholics" too.

42 posted on 07/03/2003 7:13:33 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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43 posted on 07/03/2003 7:13:57 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: MHGinTN
The secular humanist democrats don't give a fig about the religion of the nominee . . .

The point group working with Schumer in blocking these nominations is PFAW--a group created for the express purpose of driving Christians out of the public square and out of elected office. Eventually Christians will be forced to stop being so tolerant and polite about what is being done to them and who is doing it.

44 posted on 07/03/2003 7:21:24 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: sinkspur
Thomas rejoined the Catholic Church at a ceremony at his alma mater, Holy Cross, in 1996. He was raised a Baptist, but his grandparents had him convert to Catholicism when he was educated by nuns. Thomas wanted to a priest, but he left both the seminary and the Church in 1968 because many of his fellow seminarians criticized Martin Luther King. Ironically, he finished his college education at Holy Cross after leaving the Catholic Church.
45 posted on 07/03/2003 8:00:16 PM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: nickcarraway
Thanks for the heads up!
46 posted on 07/03/2003 8:13:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: nickcarraway
Are democrats really anti-Catholic? It sure seems that way...
47 posted on 07/03/2003 10:08:27 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: nickcarraway
Are democrats really anti-Catholic? It sure seems that way...
48 posted on 07/03/2003 10:08:28 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: The Barefoot Assassin
Surely any justice whose religious or political views are going to cloud his interpretation of the law is unfit to serve.

Human nature is such that the political views of each and every Supreme Court justice cloud his or her interpretation of the law. I think it is worse with the Democratic justices, who unahamedly cite European court rulings when our own precedents are not to their liking. However, even the GOP judges usually (certainly not always) manage to find that correct interpretation of the law is in accord with the outcome they prefer.

49 posted on 07/04/2003 4:43:39 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg; kstewskis; ninenot; Thomas Aquinas; MozartLover; Victoria Delsoul
You know... it's funny, but JFK is continued to be acknowledged as the first Roman Catholic President, which of course is true, but he sure went out of his way to imply that the values of the church would not influence his life in public office.

I've always found that disturbing, and sad. Certainly looking at his personal life, he didn't seem to care much about the values of his faith.

Happy Independence Day everybody!

50 posted on 07/04/2003 5:23:27 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: sinkspur
Surprisingly, Flynn injected himself in the 2002 LA Senate election and endorsed the Republican Suzanne Haik Terrell, 52-48 percent loser to the popular Mary Landrieu. Landrieu in turn picked up the support of Lindy Boggs, former New Orleans congresswoman, a prolifer, and mother of the pro-choice Cokie Boggs Roberts, former co-host of ABC's "This Week" program.
51 posted on 07/04/2003 7:55:49 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: sinkspur; narses
Flynn kissed the Kennedy's butts when he was mayor of Boston, and was one of the chief deriders of the "Republican Revolution" when the GOP was the only political party to take courageous stands on the pro-life issue. Is he suddenly overcome with a guilty conscience? Will he stay in the Democrat Party, or are his words just part of his job? 4 posted on 07/03/2003 2:38 PM PDT by sinkspur

LOL! The Dems are the leading voices in the de-Christianization of America. Here's what doesn't make much sense. Catholic Dems like Flynn would claim they personally don't accept the pro-abortion policies of their party but must remain Dems because of liberal social justice and economic issues. Why they could not be pro-life Republicans who personally don't accept the conservative economic policies of that party remains a mystery perhaps they should explain. Since when did economics mandate compromising with the slaughter of the unborn?

The priority ought to be to end abortion first and debate social security, minimum wage, and welfare later. This enslavement of intellectually-challenged urban ethnics to the pro-abortion party is not exactly a pristine example of sound Catholic moral reasoning. It's fine if Flynn's grandpa was hoodwinked into thinking FDR was Santa Claus like that other lightweight Doris Kearns, but, really, he needs to get with the program. Whether Dem socialism is mandated by Catholic social teaching is debatable as well.

52 posted on 07/04/2003 8:34:01 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: The Barefoot Assassin
Surely any justice whose religious or political views are going to cloud his interpretation of the law is unfit to serve.

There are six of them already there - the six that decided there is a Constitutional right to sodomy so that homosexuals won't be "demeaned". That's clouded to the point of utter darkness.

53 posted on 07/04/2003 8:40:34 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: GOPJ
GOPJ wrote: Are democrats really anti-Catholic? It sure seems that way...

Dems engage in a lot of anti-Catholic and anti-Christian posturing. Most support abortion and deride pro-life Catholics. Most oppose school choice, but not infrequently send their own to private schools. They support the alternative lifestyle agendas, and villify Catholics and other religious conservatives who support traditional family values. When an offensive art exhibit featured the Virgin Mary smeared with elephant dung, liberals supported the art exhibit. Liberal Catholics who are Dems go against church teaching and support abortion, including the grotesque and barbaric partial-birth abortion and embryonic stem-cell harvesting. However, when election time comes they wheel out their Irish, Italian, or Polish Catholic credentials and milk their working class and suburban followers for votes. And they are glad to accept honors and honorary degrees from Catholic colleges and universities while thumbing their noses at church moral teachings. The history of Catholic involvement with the anti-Catholic and anti-Christian Democratic Party is one of the more bizarre episodes in American social history.

There is, however, nothing preventing Cardinal Hickey, Keeler, and the new Bishop of Boston from informing the Kennedys of their irregular positions on pro-life issues. They could do so now, today. Why do you suppose they do not?

54 posted on 07/04/2003 8:47:39 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Northern Yankee
but he sure went out of his way to imply that the values of the church would not influence his life in public office.

He sure did.

Happy Independence Day to you as well, NY.

55 posted on 07/04/2003 10:34:48 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: The Barefoot Assassin
I hear what you're saying but I can't believe it isn't possible to find nine completely neutral, hyperintelligent legal scholars to sit on SCOTUS. Complete neutrality is rare,

There is no such thing as neutrality. Only a computer or machine could be neutral, as every human has consciousness, which is defined by thoughts, desires, feelings, will - all individual, and all colored by one's world view. Some people are closer to seeing reality than others. The evil smart people (you mention Clinton - though I don't know how smart he really is) are called in Sanskrit "mayaya pahritajnana" - their knowledge is stolen by illusion. They may be very "smart" or intellectual, may have high IQ's - but because of their arrogance and desire to emulate the Supreme, they actually can't see reality at all. They are living in their own hell. The unfortunate thing is they want everyone else to live in it too.

57 posted on 07/04/2003 2:01:18 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: nickcarraway
I never thought that Ray was the brightest bulb in the basket, but I've come to respect him in his old age. It's obvious that his faith means everything to him.

Ray left out part of the Know Nothing story, the compulsory attendance laws of the mid-1800s that consigned Irish immigrants to Protestant "public" schools. It was the ignoble beginning of government education.

59 posted on 07/04/2003 4:32:22 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Surely the Kennedy's don't have enough money to buy off the Catholic Church. Do they? Why don't the Cardinals speak up?

There is, however, nothing preventing Cardinal Hickey, Keeler, and the new Bishop of Boston from informing the Kennedys of their irregular positions on pro-life issues. They could do so now, today. Why do you suppose they do not?

60 posted on 07/04/2003 6:33:00 PM PDT by GOPJ
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