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California: Governor Davis develops backbone with public employees
Roger Hedgecock Show, KOGO AM600, San Diego
| July 2, 2003
Posted on 07/02/2003 4:41:23 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping
To: John Jorsett
This is exactly the reason why Davis should stay in office. Only Davis can pull off this laying off of union thugs members. Anyone other than Davis would be crucified.
To: John Jorsett
Who created these funded non-positions?.
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posted on
07/02/2003 4:54:25 PM PDT
by
malia
To: John Jorsett
I think a few thanks need ot go to Howard Kaloogian and the SENATE too!!!!!
(The Dems know the'll find 6 Assembly Reps before they find 2 Senate Reps.)
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posted on
07/02/2003 4:54:34 PM PDT
by
ElkGroveDan
(Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
To: John Jorsett
Davis are actually considering a "no new taxes" budget, Well this is a start. However in Davis-speak the $4.2 Billion tripling of the car tax is considered a tax cut, so they need to go a lot further than just no new taxes. They need to cut spending a lot. Revenues have increased 25% while spending increased 40%. This tells me they are still taking in way too much of my money, AND outspending the amounts they are overtaxing me. They need to reduce the salary increases, and cut real employees as well as the phantom positions.
To: John Jorsett
On Oct. 23,2002 Gov. Gray Davis announced a hiring freeze to deal with the growing budget shortfall, now $23.6 billion and counting.
But from the time the freeze began through the end of March 2002, the state of California hired nearly 10,000 new employees, 9,311 to be exact.
In some cases, the state hired at a more rapid pace than before.
The California Employment Development Department alone hired 545 under the freeze but only 408 in the same period the previous year.
Likewise, the state's Compensation Insurance Fund took on 885 new employees during the freeze, compared to 516 the year before.
If these numbers seem trivial, consider the California Department of Corrections.
This department hired 2,005 new workers during the five-month span from October to the end of March 2002. By contrast, from October 31, 2000, to March 31, 2001, when no freeze was in effect, the department hired 1,579 new employees.
Hiring nearly 10,000 new state employees during a proclaimed freeze and under a $23.6 billion budget shortfall is remarkable enough.
Now the Davis administration is about to establish the Labor and Workforce Development Agency, which also creates a new post of labor secretary.
http://www.examiner.com/opinion/default.jsp?story=op.pipes.0621w0
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:00:57 PM PDT
by
Weimdog
To: malia
Who created these funded non-positions?.The same people who created all other positions. If you can find an org-chart, you will find positions which are *vacant*. These positions are *expected* to be filled sometime during the fiscal year. However, things change, and many are not filled. Also someone may leave and is not replaced.
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:04:39 PM PDT
by
NathanR
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
To: John Jorsett
I got a new "Governing" magazine this week and they had a rundown of a lot of different measurements for all 50 states. California had the second or third highest number of governmental employees per 10,000 people. They had the HIGHEST average cost (salary) per governmental employee. And they were near the top in both fringe benefits and pensions.
Is it possible that this might be part of the reason for California's budget crisis?
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:10:47 PM PDT
by
jim_trent
To: John Jorsett
Amazing BUMP.
To: John Jorsett
In Nevada the Democraps created a $50 million dollar "Rainy Day Fund". They bank taxpayers money and then act surprised when Republicans balk at the Democraps taxation! What a rip off!
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:20:49 PM PDT
by
pke
To: jim_trent
"California had the second or third highest number of governmental employees per 10,000 people. They had the HIGHEST average cost (salary) per governmental employee. And they were near the top in both fringe benefits and pensions. "
Need lots of people to process the paperwork for all the benefits the illegal aliens.... er, undocumented workers..... are receiving from the state. Gotta track the free handouts of SSN monies and education and health care and......
Gosh.... I need to become an illegal immigrant. I'd get more benefits that way.
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:26:13 PM PDT
by
bart99
To: John Jorsett
"none of this would be happening had the recall effort not been instituted. We've hit him so hard between the eyes that he's willing to piss off his biggest supporters, the public employees unions." I guess a drowning man will grasp at anything to stay afloat. I heard the other day that the State of California is going to offer golden handshakes. I'm assuming this is to draw down the number of State employees.
To: John Jorsett
Seems that the Democrats and Davis are actually considering a "no new taxes" budget Thanks for posting the summary of the news. I heard the show, too, and I thought only Davis was moving toward that type of budget, but the rest of the democrats weren't.
Also, as a clarification, Davis is only reducing spending with this proposal, not necessarily reducing taxes. He's not backing off the car tax, either.
All this had me wondering: if Davis shows some leadership and gets a budget with no new taxes (except the car tax hike), will it help his chances of surviving the recall election if it's held this fall? He can say he saved us from any new taxes (and try to label himself a fiscal conservative) without really hurting any employees or making any noticeable change in government services.
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:45:52 PM PDT
by
heleny
To: John Jorsett
"Governor Davis develops backbone with public employees" Bill Clinton developed a different kind of bone with public employees.
not necessarily reducing taxes should have been: not necessarily preventing new or increased taxes.
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:46:59 PM PDT
by
heleny
To: John Jorsett
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:55:07 PM PDT
by
heleny
To: heleny
I thought only Davis was moving toward that type of budget, but the rest of the democrats weren't. Davis and the democrat State Senators were considering the idea, but Herb Wesson and the Assembly democrats weren't.
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:56:46 PM PDT
by
heleny
To: heleny
Thanks for posting the summary of the news. I heard the show, too, and I thought only Davis was moving toward that type of budget, but the rest of the democrats weren't. The Democrats haven't rejected it outright, which is 'considering' it by the standards of what's gone on recently.
Also, as a clarification, Davis is only reducing spending with this proposal, not necessarily reducing taxes.
Absolutely. I'd no more expect him to reduce taxes than to cut off his arm. But it's an acknowledge he isn't going to get any new revenue (with the exception of the car tax, which we voters are going to abolish through initiative anyway). No additional taxes would be a major position change from where's he's been.
All this had me wondering: if Davis shows some leadership and gets a budget with no new taxes (except the car tax hike), will it help his chances of surviving the recall election if it's held this fall? He can say he saved us from any new taxes (and try to label himself a fiscal conservative) without really hurting any employees or making any noticeable change in government services.
I'd definitely expect him to try the "I saved you from further taxes!" ploy. Whether it would succeed or not, there's no telling until the election. At the least, he wouldn't take a further hit as he would if the budget impasse sends the state over the brink into functional bankruptcy.
To: John Jorsett
PING BYE, BYE .... WILL THE CALTRANS CREW BE HIT BY THIS TOO?
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posted on
07/02/2003 5:59:22 PM PDT
by
pointsal
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