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No Troops To Liberia (Vanity)

Posted on 07/02/2003 3:15:35 PM PDT by faithincowboys

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To: inquest
Your honesty is refreshing and I wish you would impart a few morsels on the rest of the whining sniveling bunch who don't understand that Liberians skinned alive and run thru a shredder is child's play for the regimes of brutal nations.
61 posted on 07/03/2003 8:28:17 PM PDT by blackdog (Who weeps for the tuna?)
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To: faithincowboys
How many of those earning a buck that you are willing to write off are working for Uncle Sam and thus the taxpayer? Make sure if you ever leave the country to hang a sign around your neck that your sorry a** isn't worth saving.

"Voice of America maintains its largest transmission center in the world. Broadcasting with six 250 kW and two 50 kW transmitters, coverage is provided for the entire African continent, the Middle East and southwestern Russia. Looking towards the sea from Monrovia, the U.S. keeps an Omega communications and navigation relay station to transmit and guide submarines in the Atlantic. Firestone runs the largest rubber plantation in the world outside of Monrovia, complete with a 200 bed medical facility."

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62 posted on 07/03/2003 10:41:36 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: sinkspur
"This is nonsense."

Seeing as how we have had such a great success rate in other instances of tribal warfare in Africa, I don't see how it's nonsense to discern that Liberia could be a great opportunity to give the U.S. a bloody nose. "The former ambassador to Liberia was just now on Special Edition with Brit Hume, and he said a small force could do the job."

What military training does he have?

"The Liberians WANT the Americans in; there's just a small group in the government that are propping up Charles Taylor."

That's what was said about Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Now we have Shia protests and daily ambushes on American troops. How much is enough? Al Qaeda is in Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Morocco, etc, why aren't we invading these countries too? Why don't we just launch military operations everywhere? Our economy can sure take it.

63 posted on 07/05/2003 1:18:59 AM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: faithincowboys
--Despite the fact that during the civil war Charles Taylor commanded one of the most vicious armies of modern times, and is widely believed to have his power for personal enrichment on a grand scale, he has an impressive roster of liberal American friends and acquaintances that includes the Reverend Jesse Jackson and former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Taylor enjoys an especially close relationship with former President jimmy Carter, a fellow-Baptist, who travel frequently to Liberia to oversee "democracy building" and human-rights programs that the Carter Center foundation operates there. Taylor's lawyer and P.R. man in Washington, D.C., is Lester Hyman, a Kennedy protégé and the former chairman of the Democratic party of Massachusetts. Hyman says that when President Clinton was in Africa this spring he telephoned Taylor from Air Force One and gave him a "pep talk that was very encouraging."

Presumably, the Presidential pep talk had to do with Taylor's efforts to keep peace in Liberia. Between December, 1989, and November, 1996, an estimated two hundred thosand people were killed in the war, and as much as eighty percent of the population was displaced. The vilence spilled over into Sierra Leone, which succumbed to its own version of the Liberian nightmare, and Guinea and the Ivory Coast were inundated with hundreds of thousands of refugees. A regional peacekeeping force, the Economic Community of West African States Ceasefire Monitoring Group, or ECOMOG, sent in troops, as did the U.N., and the United States conducted three separate Embassy evacuations. For a time, it seemed that the conflict was unresolvable.

Liberia has always been a harsh place, but for most of this century it was one of the most stable countries in Africa. It had not been colonized by Europeans, and thus avoided the violent independence struggles that began to disrupt the continent in the nineteen-fifties. It wasn't until 1980, when the government was overthrown in a military coup led by Master Sergeant Samuel Doe, that Liberia was inflicted with the kind of openly despotic misrule that is a feature of life in much of Africa. During the multisided civil war that started nine years later, sadistic teenage killers sporting names like General F*ck Me Quick, Babykiller, and Dead Body Bones arbitrarily executed civilians and decorated checkpoints on the roads with human heads and entrails. Often on drugs, wearing fetishes they believed made them impervious to bullets, and garbed in costumes ranging from novelty-store fright masks to wigs and women's bathrobes, these murderous adolescents raped, pillaged, and slaughtered at will. Many engaged in cannibalism, eating the hearts and genitals of their slain enemies in order to enhance their "power."---

http://www.republicofliberia.com/thedevil.htm

"“Liberia: Joshua Blahyi - formerly known as General Butt Naked and leader of the Butt Naked Battalion in Liberia's recent civil war - says that he now regrets the drunken murderous rampages he led his troops on, and says that he was a ‘slave to Satan.’ Speaking to the press from his new Soul-Winning Evangelical Ministry in Monrovia, General Butt Naked told reporters that at the age of 11 he had a telephone call from the Devil who demanded nudity on the battlefield, acts of indecency and regular human sacrifices to ensure his protection. ‘So, before leading my troops into battle, we would get drunk and drugged up, sacrifice a local teenager, drink their blood, then strip down to our shoes and go into battle wearing colourful wigs and carrying dainty purses we'd looted from civilians. We'd slaughter anyone we saw, chop their heads off and use them as soccer balls. We were nude, fearless, drunk and homicidal. We killed hundreds of people—so many I lost count. But in June last year God telephoned me and told me that I was not the hero I considered myself to be, so I stopped and became a preacher.’”

Let's see, 16 different tribes, several militias and rebel groups with commanders who have names like Mosquito Spray, General Housebreaker, Rambo, and Babykiller. Liberia and Sierra Leone are very much connectd, the borders are porous. And these people are on all sides, not just under Taylor. Good luck figuring out who the "good" guys are. And all the bleeding hearts want to get us involved with this?




64 posted on 07/05/2003 2:33:04 AM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: faithincowboys
We have 1.3 million active duty military personnel. We have 260,000 or so deployed around the world.

We can cobble together a unit if the CIC orders it.

65 posted on 07/05/2003 2:36:38 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: faithincowboys
Al Qaeda will hit us hard there and there is not a damn thing in it for us!

Oh yeah, if Al Qaeda is there we sure don't want our military there. They might not hide in caves fast enough and we'll have to kill them.

Friggin' Cowboy Bush. Sending our warriors to kill our mortal enemies.

66 posted on 07/05/2003 2:41:23 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Frances_Marion
Al Qaeda is in Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Morocco, etc, why aren't we invading these countries too

Do you have their current addresses?

Thanks in advance.

67 posted on 07/05/2003 2:48:34 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: cyborg
Okay but to ignore Africa and the way the radical islamofascists are taking over is dangerous

Bingo!

Therefore, an on the ground AIDS program with American personnel stationed and operating with the locals in every country and city on the Continent is that much better.

Let's fight a scourge, make friends and watch for the Jihad Islamist cockroaches. Covering that continent with intel and helping those birth-fated blighted Africans is worth $15 billion.

69 posted on 07/05/2003 3:19:13 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: zuggerlee
1.) You don't have the information for an informed judgement.

2.) You don't have the information for an informed judgement.

3.) You don't have the information for an informed judgement.

70 posted on 07/05/2003 3:21:49 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: zuggerlee
For the record, I don't have sufficient information either. Nobody but the President and his NSC staff do.

Bush doesn't send troops frivilously. He's not Kofi Annans lackey.

Maybe we'll terminate some terror monkeys in the area.

72 posted on 07/05/2003 4:15:04 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
"Al Qaeda is in Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Morocco, etc, why aren't we invading these countries too"

Ha ha ha...oh, if only I did.

73 posted on 07/05/2003 7:48:09 AM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: ArneFufkin
They will be there. Just like they found their way to Somalia, and they will foment anti-US sentiment among certain factions. And some of the thousand or so troops we sent will get killed, and the public will clamor for a pullout (due to no vital nat'l interest) and we will pull out with a bloody nose. And the Islamists will declare victory.

Great Strategy!
74 posted on 07/05/2003 12:29:00 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: ArneFufkin
That was my point. Muslim governments leave a wake of destruction,death, rape and pillage wherever they go. There are FReepers that talk about Africa worse than they talk about roaches, forgetting that there are people there.
75 posted on 07/05/2003 6:54:56 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm a mutt-american)
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