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New Device Offers A Peek At Our Deeply Buried Past
The Miami Herald of Miami, Florida ^ | June 22, 2003 | Martin Merzer

Posted on 06/27/2003 11:25:09 PM PDT by goody2shooz

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I thought this was pertinent in light of the problems we're having finding WMD in Iraq, particularly if it is buried versus sent to Syria or Libya.
1 posted on 06/27/2003 11:25:09 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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Very useful technology - thanks for posting this.
2 posted on 06/27/2003 11:39:34 PM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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Trying to figure out what's new about his device. Ground penetrating radar has been around for years. Must be the software?
3 posted on 06/27/2003 11:51:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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"I thought this was pertinent in light of the problems we're having finding WMD in Iraq, particularly if it is buried versus sent to Syria or Libya.

. . .a humbling investigation. . .and a good point for discovery of WMD. . .wonder if they have even considered this. . .

4 posted on 06/28/2003 12:17:13 AM PDT by cricket
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"Midden is the black, earth-like substance formed by the debris of ancient cultures"

Etymology: Middle English midding, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse myki dung & Old Norse dyngja manure pile -- more at DUNG
Date: 14th century

Yep, archaeologist are just dumpster divers at heart.
5 posted on 06/28/2003 12:40:18 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (flexstand.com)
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"Must be the software?"

I suspect it is a combination of increased resolution and the software. Sounds like the equivalent of MRI for archaeologists.

If the prototype is THIS good, think what it'll be like after a few years of development.

6 posted on 06/28/2003 3:45:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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"Yep, archaeologist are just dumpster divers at heart."

From Amazon.com:

Rubbish!: The Archaeology of Garbage by William Rathje, Cullen Murphy (Contributor), William Ratheje"

"One of the central tenets of the University of Arizona's Garbage Project is that "what people have owned--and thrown away--can speak more eloquently, informatively, and truthfully about the lives they lead than they themselves ever may." Project garbologists have alchemized more than 250,000 pounds of refuse--from landfills and from trash cans in selected neighborhoods--into a treasure trove for experts in marketing and consumer research, census studies and environmentalism. Garbologists have determined that people waste three times more beef when the meat is in short supply than when it is plentiful; that many women use birth-control pills incorrectly; and that lower-income families consistently buy small-size, brand-name products rather than cheaper generic ones. Erudite and witty cultural tour guides, Rathje, an archeologist and anthropologist who directs the Project, and Atlantic managing editor Murphy claim that our garbage problems are solvable; that, with proper safeguards, incineration may be a viable option in some communities; and that paper--not disposable diapers or fast-food packaging--is a chief culprit in overloading landfills. Illustrated. First serial to Smithsonian; BOMC and QPB alternates; author tour."

7 posted on 06/28/2003 3:49:52 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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Whatever happened to the HAARP project which was capable of looking very deep into the earth? I think they used atmospheric heating to create a lens on the order of 30 miles wide they could bounce radar off to look down anywhere they wished.
8 posted on 06/28/2003 4:38:00 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Debunking Darwin since the beginning of time... :)
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fyi
9 posted on 06/28/2003 5:15:50 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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"Yep, archaeologist are just dumpster divers at heart."

Be nice.

10 posted on 06/28/2003 6:34:36 PM PDT by blam
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''I was stunned when I saw this,'' Carr said. ``He produces what appears to be an X-ray movie of what's below the ground. It's like the greatest science fiction film you ever saw. Nothing like this has ever been done in the history of archaeology.''

Well now, perhaps we'll finally be able to find out if any hidden chambers or treasures still exist below the great pyramids and the Sphinx ;-)

11 posted on 06/28/2003 6:48:12 PM PDT by varon
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Also here over past centuries were a Tequesta burial mound, early Spanish forts, the 19th century Fort Dallas and the Royal Palm Hotel.

Ahhh, yes. The Royal Palm Hotel of the early-20th century era.
12 posted on 06/28/2003 6:50:52 PM PDT by July 4th
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I was just going to ping you. I want one of these, how about you? Arrowhead hunting would be a lead-pipe cinch.
13 posted on 06/28/2003 6:55:03 PM PDT by Ditter
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About ten years ago, they shut down Boston's "Big Dig" because
they came across the subterranean end of a long forgotten
outhouse.

The shutdown cost some like $1.3M or 3.1M for the day so the
dumpster divers could go wild, and maybe even bring up some
long dormant virus or bacteria.

14 posted on 06/28/2003 7:06:12 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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"Arrowhead hunting would be a lead-pipe cinch."

Perhaps.

The anthropologist in me wants to know the origin and meaning of 'a lead pipe cinch?'

15 posted on 06/28/2003 9:11:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: LibWhacker
Good point. Might indeed be the software.
16 posted on 06/28/2003 11:16:49 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: ALS
Um, I believe there were some unforeseen side affects on the Whale and Dolphin populations. The Navy dropped it like a hot potato.
17 posted on 06/28/2003 11:18:51 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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You could be thinking of something else.

HAARP

18 posted on 06/29/2003 8:47:48 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Debunking Darwin since the beginning of time... :)
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Lead Pipe Cinch

Today we present yet another chapter in our search for the origins of the phrase "lead pipe cinch," meaning a task or accomplishment that is so easy as to be a certainty. Previous theories put forward have included using a lead pipe as a threat to ensure cooperation, as well as the use of a lead pipe as a means of "deflating" a horse which has puffed up its belly to avoid being "cinched" and saddled. Now J.R. Latimer, a reader in Mexico, and Dennis Engbring, from Green Bay, WI, have both e-mailed to me a very convincing "plumbing- based" explanation for the term. Mr. Latimer goes further and deflates the "horse" theory. Mr. Latimer writes:

"I lived for many years in Africa where often one found an older, low-tech form of plumbing. Lead piping was/is used to make critical junctures, and it is "cinched" to the pieces it connects, i.e., the faucet/tap and the incoming pipe. This makes for a very sure, no- leak joint, and to my understanding, the technique has been used since Roman times. Thus the expression "lead pipe cinch" meaning a sure thing or absolutely.

"As for using a pipe to cinch up a saddle, it seems unlikely. I spent some time in a combat active cavalry unit and the standard method to deflate a horse was to kick it in the belly and when it exhaled you pulled the cinch tight. It sounds cruel, but it almost seemed a game for the horse -- anyway, most of the horses don't do this. Growing up in Texas I don't recall ever seeing a pipe laying around a corral and NEVER have I heard of a cowboy or horse soldier carrying one. I suspect the twisting pipe method would get an admiring glance from an inquisitor, but would receive guffaws or worse from other riders. Also, the twisting cinch would pinch the horse, possibly injuring it a place that also gets rubbed. Not good."

19 posted on 06/29/2003 9:51:22 AM PDT by blam
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LOL Is this quest for the origins of "lead pipe cinch" a new one, or did I get you going? I have always thought it was the first one. Meaning, "do it my way or I'll bash you with this lead pipe". Who would not comply to this?
20 posted on 06/29/2003 4:06:23 PM PDT by Ditter
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