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Privacy amok (Sodomy Laws)
Washington Times ^ | 6/27/03

Posted on 06/27/2003 12:44:32 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:04:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: tpaine
Now specify what is constitutionally 'wrong' in that act in what context.ok, if you'll tell me what's wrong what's constitutionally wrong with pederasty.
62 posted on 06/27/2003 12:28:47 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tpaine
Take your perverted bestiality crap to the back room, suhks. - Argue the issue or shut up:

Now you see, here I just thought you weren’t a hypocrite pain and apparently I was wrong. And, since bestiality is SODOMY it certainly is part of the issue along with your “logic” of private consensual “sex” or are you going to regulate your blow up doll too? Since animals and your blow up doll are private property where does the state have the right to regulate what you do with them?

64 posted on 06/27/2003 12:29:46 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: jimt
Should it be CRIMINAL? No.

If the vast majority of a state believes it is wrong, why shouldn't they pass laws against it?

65 posted on 06/27/2003 12:33:02 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper
to your way of thinking the act of sodomy is right or wrong depending on what one believes about it. Is this correct?
55 -pipe-


Let me guess; - to your way of thinking the act of prohibiting sodomy is right because of what one believes about it. Is this correct?

Do you have any concept of why we have a BORs protecting our individual liberties?

66 posted on 06/27/2003 12:33:53 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: jimt
Well said. -- It will be interesting to see if a rational reply is made.
67 posted on 06/27/2003 12:37:35 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tbpiper
If the vast majority of a state believes it is wrong, why shouldn't they pass laws against it?

Because the acid test is whether someone's rights are being violated. If they're not, then the state has no legitimate reason to criminalize the behavior.

I find chewing with an open mouth extremely offensive. If I can convince the legislature to criminalize that behavior, is it legitimate to do so? Most people would agree with me that open-mouth mastication is gross and wrong.

Of course not - although I'd love to throw my ex-wife, whose eating habits make a pig look refined, in jail for it.

68 posted on 06/27/2003 12:41:18 PM PDT by jimt
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To: TonyRo76
I always have nice weekends. -- I'm not cursed with the sickness of hate.
69 posted on 06/27/2003 12:41:36 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: LiteKeeper
They are minors. Apparently, we still see a distinction between adults and minors. Perhaps that's something else we can debase.
70 posted on 06/27/2003 12:43:37 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: tbpiper
I have tell you why child abuse is constitutionally a criminal act?
Good grief. -- Get lost, you're a waste of time.
71 posted on 06/27/2003 12:48:22 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I'm gonna 'dismiss' you again, suhks. Calm yourself, & take your meds.
72 posted on 06/27/2003 12:53:18 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
I'm gonna 'dismiss' you again, suhks. Calm yourself, & take your meds.

That would certainly be logical if you had an argument to dismiss me with. And since you don’t you fall into a long line of Liberaltarians who can’t answer the same question and leave in a huff with a condescending pejorative.

Congratulations and next time don’t bother peddling you liberal social experiment on our society if you can’t defend it, OK pain?

73 posted on 06/27/2003 1:04:30 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: tpaine; tbpiper
Good grief. -- Get lost, you're a waste of time.

This is the usual argument you can expect from pain, chalk full of facts and logic.

74 posted on 06/27/2003 1:07:15 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: tbpiper
If the vast majority of a state believes it is wrong, why shouldn't they pass laws against it?

Let's see, other than being a validation of mob rule and being entirely antithetical to the principles of a constitutional republic?

75 posted on 06/27/2003 1:15:00 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: Clint N. Suhks
See #49 for the 'dismissive argument' from Justice Harlan.

Obviously you didn't even read it, as can be proved. -- You are a joke, suhks.
76 posted on 06/27/2003 1:16:36 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
See #49 for the 'dismissive argument' from Justice Harlan.

I see, so “and so on” supports equal protection for bestiality too huh? Bwahahaha…Last time you argued the opposite so I didn’t know which tpain was showing up today. So all the incest and bestiality laws on the books are unconstitutional? Bwahahahaaa… Because Harlan ruled so? Bwhahahaaa…

Then if equal protection is the law of the land consensual child sex is also protected. What an idiot you are.

77 posted on 06/27/2003 1:45:40 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: tpaine
I have tell you why child abuse is constitutionally a criminal act?Yes you do. Since you're a sticlker for specificity, tell me where I can find the specific constitutional proscription against pederasty? Even then, by what authority does the constitution have the right to tell someone they cannot pederize a consenting partner in their own home?
79 posted on 06/27/2003 2:43:28 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tdadams
Let's see, other than being a validation of mob rule and being entirely antithetical to the principles of a constitutional republic?

Let me see if I understand you. If the people of a state, through a legislative process by duely elected representatives, codify their collect moral belief that sodomy is wrong for thier society, this then, in your view constitutes mob rule. And the process of duely elected representatives doing such a deed is constitutionally antithetical?

80 posted on 06/27/2003 2:52:54 PM PDT by tbpiper
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