Russia's Putin retraces historic links with Scotland

AFP ^ | Thursday June 26, 12:09 AM | AFP

[Destro]

Those links go back even further in time:

THE FALL OF ORTHODOX ENGLAND

[ken5050]

Let me be the first to mention Arlen Spector and Scottish Law.....the headline inspires it..

[JohnnyZ]

Russia is the biggest country in Europe.

[ffusco]

Russia is not even in Europe. Europe ends at the Danube.

[JohnnyZ]

Russia is not even in Europe. Europe ends at the Danube.

Uh, no. Europe ends at the Urals. Russia is BY FAR the biggest country in Europe. And in Asia.

[RussianConservative]

Russia is not even in Europe. Europe ends at the Danube.

That is stupidist thing I hear here in long time....so guess Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Croatia, Bosnia, Albania and Greece also not Europe? And what part Danube...since Danube run W to E...head water or mouth, north or south? If head water, then guess Poland, Hungary, Slovania, Slovakia, Czech, Ukraine, Romania, Moldovia, Belaruss, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia also not count?

Allow me educate you: Europe SE boundry: Caucus Mountains, E. boundry Ural Mountains.

[ffusco]

Really, last I heard Europe was a penninsula.

[JohnnyZ]

Look, there's even a big line of ridges -- let's call them, oh, I dunno, "The Ural Mountains" -- showing where Europe ran into Asia (and vice versa). And some smaller ones in the south in yellow and light green. I could almost hazard a guess as to which two of Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Georgia those are, too . . .

[ffusco]

No need. I get my info from the CIA. I know Russia identifies herself as European and has imported a lot of European culture for 300 years, But they aren't on the penninsula.

The eastern most nations in Europe (eastern Europe) are Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Belarus, The Ukraine, and Turkey.

[RightWhale]

The Ural Mnts are considered the eastern boundary of Europe. Turkey is considered Asia, and eastern Turkey the Orient.

What about the Middle East? Where is that?

[ffusco]

It seems there are more than one definition of Europe.

Culturally, politically, geographically and Soccer.

The middle east is in "the middle east"

[ffusco]

whatever you say.

[wideminded]

Your Serb apologetics get on my nerves quite a lot, but the link you posted here was very interesting.

[JohnnyZ]

A lot of people get confused by that. They think countries define continents. At least even you concede PART of Russia is in Europe -- Kaliningrad oblast is west of the Baltics.

Anyway, one of the questions echoed a question I heard on Jeopardy! last week. It was something along the lines of: "What is the most populous city in Europe?" Now, the obvious answer in London, which is the only city among the top 20 that I consider to be in Europe, but the correct answer according to both Jeopardy! and Trivial Pursuit was Moscow.

See, lots of confused people out there.

[JohnnyZ]

Turkey is considered Asia, and eastern Turkey the Orient. What about the Middle East? Where is that?

Strictly continent-wise, Turkey is split but mostly in Asia, and the Middle East is in Asia as well. I'm not entirely sure where the Asia-Africa split is; on one side or the other of the Sinai Peninsula, I'm thinking right at the Suez. Then there's the Asia-Oceania split; I'm not sure which islands are said to belong to the Asian continent and which are continent-less. Heck, in terms of tectonics, I believe the Philippines has its own plate!

[RussianConservative]

First that rusophobic definition Europe. Second, Turkey Europe? Only tiny toe hold, Turkey called Asia Minor for reason...guess why!

[RussianConservative]

By your definition of Europe a pennisula...then no Europe, just part of asia...western outgrowth of Asia....or what part of steppe does Europe define in your book?

[RussianConservative]

Russia identifies herself as European and has imported a lot of European culture for 300 years, But they aren't on the penninsula.

Let me give you clue...all free. Russians are Slavs, eastern slavs who come from Bohemia, area where Slavs comes from...they intermix with Vargars...Norsemen...ghee, that make us EUROPEANS. We did not import Euro culture, we help create it. Last Saxon princess of England married Kieven Russ prince. Since historic capital of Russ, before mongols, was Kiev, that by your definition is Europe. Funny thing, St. Petersburg further west then Kiev, Moscow further West then third of Ukraine. Gee, geography...

[RussianConservative]

But if Europe defined pennisula...how England/Ireland/Scotland/Iceland part of Europe...they Islands...Corsica, Sicili, Cyprus too.

[ffusco]

Personally I consider Europe to be the original EU members + Britain. Turkey is the least Europe of all, but is a mediterranian nation and was part of the Roman sphere of infleunce.

BTW The Etruscans (settled in the Tuscan region of Italy) MAY have been from Asia Minor