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You're [airline pilots] an officer of the federal government
Las Vegas Review ^ | June 22, 2003 | Vin Suprynowicz

Posted on 06/24/2003 5:52:44 AM PDT by Mulder

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1 posted on 06/24/2003 5:52:44 AM PDT by Mulder
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To: Mulder
*bang_list

Reason #3412 not to fly.

2 posted on 06/24/2003 5:53:09 AM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Mulder
The fed-poop is getting deep.

Real deep.

3 posted on 06/24/2003 5:58:55 AM PDT by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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To: Mulder
No, he's right. The Constitution specifically says that it is the supreme law of the land,

DIA has another TSA fiasco going on today. Just caught part of it in on the morning news and can't comment with a lot of authority, but it seems that they (TSA) laid off a lot of security checkers there and the security lines are an hour (at least) long. People ariving for 10 AM flights at 8 AM are missing them. Talk is of hiring some part timers to fill in the gap (makes me feel real secure to hear this).

Personally, (and I admit my views are entirely unique to me, not one else will feel this way) I'd rather fly with an armed pilot than with a bunch of passengers checked out by part timer security people.

4 posted on 06/24/2003 6:02:37 AM PDT by templar
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To: templar; Mulder
Ignore the opening line. Trying to post two things at once in different mozilla tabs and not paying much attention to the editing. I admit I'm a cut and paste dope.
5 posted on 06/24/2003 6:04:35 AM PDT by templar
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To: Mulder
The original TSA guy didn't want the pilots to be armed, so he set out to keep this from happening by making it very distasteful and inconvenient to be armed.
That would be John Magaw, one of the worst of the JBTs.

The fact that the first head of the TSA ran perhaps the most out of control federal agency (BATF) during the most out of control administration in recent memory spoke volumes about what TSA was meant to be. At best, President Bush got some really bad advice there.

-Eric

6 posted on 06/24/2003 6:14:17 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Mulder
Don't know where Vin gets his info but the FAA doesn't require semi annual psychlogical exams. I go in for my physical twice a year, that's it.
7 posted on 06/24/2003 6:25:36 AM PDT by Arkie2 (It's a literary fact that the number of words wriiten will grow exponentially to fill the space avai)
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To: Mulder; *bang_list
I think "*bang_list" needs to be shown as recipient for this to work.

8 posted on 06/24/2003 7:50:39 AM PDT by slowry
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To: Mulder
Reason #3412 not to fly.

The last airline safety conference I had to attend, I went to via Amtrack, though I could have ridden free on my own airline employer's planes or jumpseated with another carrier.

They were real happy about reimbursing me for the ticket, lemme tellya. But like I told my station manager, hey, if neither the government nor the airline trusts the pilots, why should I?

-archy-/-

9 posted on 06/24/2003 8:37:42 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Mulder
To get around admitting that it could ever, ever be a good thing to allow mere "civilians" to go armed, the authorities have mandated that pilots who complete the training will now be officially deputized. "You get a badge and everything; you're a `federal flight deck officer.'"

Unreal...

11 posted on 06/24/2003 5:55:23 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: templar
Just caught part of it in on the morning news and can't comment with a lot of authority, but it seems that they (TSA) laid off a lot of security checkers there and the security lines are an hour (at least) long.

They also laid them off days before benefits would kick in.

12 posted on 06/24/2003 5:56:36 PM PDT by Djarum
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While the term "Federal Flight Deck Officer" is ludicrous, the badge has a beneficial effect.

A pilot landing in NYC who has this badge is immune to the insane anti-gun laws of that municipality.

If he did not have such a badge and designation, he would be arrested as soon as his weapon was detected by the local yokels.

Of course, all this would be unneccesary if the 2nd amendment was in full force throughout the land.

13 posted on 06/24/2003 5:59:27 PM PDT by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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To: templar
If you feel secure with all this so-called security inspections, you need to take a careful look at the situation.

Security via the governmental process is nothing more than a exercise in futility . . . it does give the appearance of something but in actuality, it is totally worthless.
14 posted on 06/24/2003 6:06:41 PM PDT by rollin
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To: templar
but it seems that they (TSA) laid off a lot of security checkers there and the security lines are an hour (at least) long.

Meanwhile, there are still some airports that have more screeners than passengers each day.

Personally, (and I admit my views are entirely unique to me, not one else will feel this way) I'd rather fly with an armed pilot than with a bunch of passengers checked out by part timer security people.

I'd rather fly with an armed pilot AND armed passengers. Personally, I'm not flying again until the gov't recognizes all of my Rights, including the Right to be armed.

15 posted on 06/24/2003 6:08:12 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: E Rocc
At best, President Bush got some really bad advice there.

Yeah, must be all those darned Klinton holdovers.

16 posted on 06/24/2003 6:09:15 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: slowry
I think "*bang_list" needs to be shown as recipient for this to work.

Thanks! I was in a hurry to get out the door so I could go support some corrupt politicians, welfare moms, and illegal immigrants through my tax dollars.

17 posted on 06/24/2003 6:10:12 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: archy
The last airline safety conference I had to attend, I went to via Amtrack, though I could have ridden free on my own airline employer's planes or jumpseated with another carrier.

I'd sooner hitchike across the country than submit to the Nazi tactics at the airports. Getting arrested for questioning "authority" or accidentaly having the wrong thing in my luggage outweighs any benefits to flying.

If I'm going to pay $300 to get treated like dirt, there are attractive women who do that sort of thing for a living. Or so I've heard.

They were real happy about reimbursing me for the ticket, lemme tellya.

I haven't had to go through this yet at my job, but expect to have to deal with it later this year. I figure I'll simply drive, and ask them to reimburse me for it. If they raise hell about "not flying", I'll explain that they can save money by simply having the meeting over the phone.

18 posted on 06/24/2003 6:15:04 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: LibKill
Of course, all this would be unneccesary if the 2nd amendment was in full force throughout the land.

If the federal government recognized any of our Rights any more, they'd put a couple of agents on each flight into an "anti" state and arrest any of the "state authorities" who intereferes with an armed pilot.

They'd be charged with attempting to violate an American's civil Rights.

19 posted on 06/24/2003 6:17:05 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: rollin
Security via the governmental process is nothing more than a exercise in futility

Meanwhile, our nation is being invaded by illegals.

20 posted on 06/24/2003 6:17:35 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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