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Deconstructing Rowling
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| 6/9/03
| Dave Kopel
Posted on 06/20/2003 8:43:14 AM PDT by Antiwar Republican
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To: Xenalyte
I think that would be your Post 87: Where in 87 did i say it was in the book?
To: js1138
My brother once snuck up on sleeping cat and still has the scars.My sister was once bitten by a... Oh, never mind...
162
posted on
06/20/2003 6:45:47 PM PDT
by
wysiwyg
(What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
To: Ditter
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Woo-hoo!! No worries!
To: Antiwar Republican
Interesting article but WAY to much into word analysis ... but than again maybe not.
I liked how Diagon Alley came from diagonally and Knockturn Alley cam from nocturnally (also the Dark wizards' hangout)
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posted on
06/20/2003 6:58:37 PM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
To: wysiwyg
The witching hour approaches. Off to Books-A-Million.
165
posted on
06/20/2003 7:51:43 PM PDT
by
js1138
To: AmericaUnited
Great you're using some NewAge
Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets as a source.
I'll take St Clement over Betty Walker on Christian symbolism.
Let us consider that wonderful sign of the resurrection which takes place in Eastern lands, that is, in Arabia and the countries round about. There is a certain bird which is called a phoenix. Clement's first Epistle to the Corinthians Chap 25
166
posted on
06/20/2003 7:54:17 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(" I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous'")
To: Oztrich Boy; no one in particular
Listening to the tapes now...
167
posted on
06/21/2003 12:55:48 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Who Cries For The Krill?)
To: Oztrich Boy
Let us consider that wonderful sign of the resurrection which takes place in Eastern lands, that is, in Arabia and the countries round about. There is a certain bird which is called a phoenix. This is the only one of its kind, and lives five hundred years. And when the time of its dissolution draws near that it must die, it builds itself a nest of frankincense, and myrrh, and other spices, into which, when the time is fulfilled, it enters and dies. But as the flesh decays a certain kind of worm is produced, which, being nourished by the juices of the dead bird, brings forth feathers. Then, when it has acquired strength, it takes up that nest in which are the bones of its parent, and bearing these it passes from the land of Arabia into Egypt, to the city called Heliopolis. And, in open day, flying in the sight of all men, it places them on the altar of the sun, and having done this, hastens back to its former abode. The priests then inspect the registers of the dates, and find that it has returned exactly as the five hundredth year was completed. And you believe this? Very funny!!!
To: CaptainJustice
Jerram Barrs, director of the Francis A. Schaeffer Institure at Covenant Seminary in St. Louis, defends J.K. Rowlings and her books here:
What Shall We Do With Harry?
Thought you might be interested.
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posted on
06/21/2003 1:21:04 AM PDT
by
scott7278
("If I'm not back by dawn -- call the president.")
To: AmericaUnited
And you believe this? Very funny!!! you do understand what the words: symbolism, allegory, metaphor mean?
OK I guess not.
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posted on
06/21/2003 1:31:50 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
("Ain't I a stinker" B Bunny)
To: CaptainJustice
The title of his lecture is The World of Harry Potter and the Evangelical Muggles, by the way.
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posted on
06/21/2003 1:40:34 AM PDT
by
scott7278
("If I'm not back by dawn -- call the president.")
To: Oztrich Boy
Wrong! Where do in that context that St Clement is alluding to this as a symbolism, allegory, metaphor? Nowhere.
To: AmericaUnited
Strictly speaking, I suspect he was using it as an allegory (the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence); however it is true that his audience may have taken him literally. It does not matter since in either case he was trying to make a point regarding the concept of the resurrection. When Christ spoke in parables people didn't say "What sower? Where did he live? What was his name? When did this happen?" Etc.
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posted on
06/21/2003 4:50:55 AM PDT
by
dark_lord
(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
To: Tijeras_Slim
Wormsign.....
To: AmericaUnited
If you're going to be a condescending, ill-informed (you still haven't answered the half a dozen questions as to whether you have read the books or are simply throwing out ignorant statements) holy roller, you might want to at least learn to spell "Calvary"
To: dark_lord
It's very clear that it was not an allegory. In the example you mention "When Christ spoke in parables", it was always very clear that it was a parable, as you can read again and again:
Mt 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in PARABLEs, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
Mt 13:18 Hear ye therefore the PARABLE of the sower.
Mt 13:24 Another PARABLE put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mt 13:31 Another PARABLE put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
Mt 13:33 Another PARABLE spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
Mt 21:33 Hear another PARABLE: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard,...
Mt 24:32 Now learn a PARABLE of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
To: The Coopster
throwing out ignorant statements Really? Point them out wise mouth.
To: AmericaUnited
Yeah, in the bible it does tend to indicate when the Christ was stating a parable. But the Letter from Clement is NOT part of the bible. Whether he was speaking allegorically or not is not clear. He may have believed his side reference to the phoenix was accurate, or he might have been speaking allegorically where his audience thought he was speaking literally, or the literary standards of those days don't stand up to current literary critical perspective. But my point was that it doesn't really matter.
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posted on
06/21/2003 8:05:34 AM PDT
by
dark_lord
(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
To: Antiwar Republican
This has all been very interesting,
but at 0750 the post office delivered my package.
"The hottest day of the summer so far was drawing to a close and a drowsy silence lay over the large, square houses....
See Ya!
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posted on
06/21/2003 8:10:12 AM PDT
by
norton
To: AmericaUnited
Answer the question. Have you read any of the books? If not, then ALL of your judgemental statements are ignorant.
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