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History Channel 8 PM! Greenglass to say his lies sent Ethel Rosenberg to the electric chair.
The History Channel ^ | 6/19/03 | History Channel

Posted on 06/19/2003 4:59:41 PM PDT by DPB101

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To: bvw
We were at best *intense* competitors with the Soviets. That does NOT make spying on their behalf -- even against our interests -- treason.

While you do hang enemy spies during wartime -- because we had never declared a war on the Soviets, but had in fact fought the most recent "official" war alongside of them, they wre not our *official* enemy.

You seem to be arguing from a legalistic standpoint. The Soviets were an extremely dangerous enemy, far more than Al Qaeda for example. Why did the Soviets want the A-bomb? They were behind the North Korean invasion, whose army killed lots of our troops. Then there was Vietnam a decade later. They put nukes in Cuba and blockaded Berlin. Your argument is absurd.

141 posted on 06/20/2003 7:53:33 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: bvw
If you say the Constituion gives the Federal Behemoth the right to execute anyone (during peacetime) from crimes short of Treason -- show me the clause!

What in the world are you talking about? Since when does the Constitution have to explicitly confer a right to execute anyone for crimes short of treason? Does it explicitly confer a right to imprison or fine someone for crimes short of treason or for treason itself for that matter? The Constitution doesn't explicitly permit a particular punishment for any particular crime.

142 posted on 06/20/2003 7:59:17 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: dix
I can’t remember why we didn’t burn him, or put him away like the other traitors.

I saw something on TV also, and I can't remember what the reason was either.

143 posted on 06/20/2003 9:19:15 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: MEG33
bump
144 posted on 06/20/2003 10:21:37 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: bvw
Will Sacco and Vanzetti do ? They were Marxist anarchists, but still, they were executed during peace time. Maybe someone else can come up with more names to suit you.

Okay, from what you've been posting, it is quite clear that you are a fringer; a fringer who hates the governement, laws, and the execution of those laws.Just because you feel this way, doesn't mean that you are right and everyone else on this thread is wrong. You've been showered with indesputable facts, none of which have you even remotely bothered to reply to/ attempt to refute with fact ... just your emotional opinions.

Please at least try to be objective and read ( or reread ) this entire thread and the FACTS posted to it, with a nonbiased mind.

145 posted on 06/20/2003 10:53:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: lasereye; bvw
Congress can pass a law mandating the death penalty for offenses other than treason and it has:
Second Congress Sess. I. Ch.7.
1792

Sec. 15 And be it further enacted, That if any person or persons shall rob any carrier of the mail of the United States, of such mail, or if any person shall rob the mail, in which letters are sent to be conveyed by post, of any letter or packet, or shall steal such mail, or shall steal and take from or out of the same, or from or out of any post-office, any letter or packet, such offender or offenders shall, on conviction thereof suffer death.

Probably a lot more death penalty offenses. Search the U.S. Congress from 1789 to 1875 here
146 posted on 06/20/2003 10:53:38 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
We can always count on you ! LOL

Now, can you find more executions, during peace time, of spies and traitors, for bvw ? PLEASE ? :-)

147 posted on 06/20/2003 11:02:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Bet there are none. Until the Bolshevik revolution, we did not have large numbers of persons in America working for a foreign government. There was a reign of terror in Russia from 1878 until 1917 during which the Tsar booted around 80,000 terrorists, criminals and subversives out of the country. Many came here. Their kids are the ones who ended up spying for the Soviet Union. Attorney General Palmer booted the worst of the worst to the new communist state in 1920. Took a decade for those left here to recover and then FDR was in power so they were safe. Until Venona was cracked.
148 posted on 06/20/2003 11:32:21 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
True ... but can't you find any other sort of " traitor ", so we can quell a certain someone's desire for more facts about the USA executing someone during peace time ? LOL
149 posted on 06/20/2003 11:34:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DPB101
Hanging for stealing a postcard? Pretty tough laws in those days. I'll be back to this subject in a few days. Thanks for the research.
150 posted on 06/21/2003 7:11:53 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DPB101
To paraphrase Alphonse Damato, "Greenglass is a putzhead."
151 posted on 06/21/2003 7:14:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS, WE PRINT")
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To: DPB101
Until the Bolshevik revolution, we did not have large numbers of persons in America working for a foreign government.

That's not exactly true. We have enjoyed periods of "agents" British, French, Spanish, German and Mexican prior to 1911.

152 posted on 06/21/2003 7:14:15 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Yes but nothing comparable to the Communist Party USA. In 1920, it received over one million dollars from Lenin. Nearly 90% of its members did not speak English. We have a cancer on our soil which was tied directly to Trotsky and his thugs who were sleeping, as attorney General Palmer said, in the Tsar's bed.
153 posted on 06/21/2003 9:19:50 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Yeah, but he also says that his sister chose poorly in being involved in spying. That show was twisted to make her look the victim.

Like West Pointers keep trying to vindicate Custer's actions at the Little Big Horn, the liberals keep trying to vindicate the Rosenburgs. They were traitors who got what they deserved! The Clintons are just as bad.

154 posted on 06/21/2003 9:23:16 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: bvw
"...unless of course, you are JEWISH. For that"...

Oh, reach up over your head, grab your ears and pull your head out of your ass! Playing the race card is pathetic and totally wrong! They died for their commissar. Get over it!

155 posted on 06/21/2003 9:26:29 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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