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When Is Human Life A Human Being?
http://www.freebritannia.co.uk ^ | 6/16/2003 | Marvin Galloway

Posted on 06/18/2003 3:25:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN

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To: MHGinTN
Please explain what life is first. Lessee now, how's this: "life is that property of humans that makes it possible for them to take in food, obtain energy from it, grow, develop and to eventually die. A living human has a specific DNA structure in each cell, is animated, had the appearance of human beings, has the physiological characteristics of humans and is viable at conception."

When does all this begin? At conception when embryonic cells are fertilized and begin to grow geometrically into millions of differentiated cell structures that ultimately define the human body and a baby is the result of the miracle of life.

Harvesting baby parts from aborted or ill babies is as heinous as abortion itself.

41 posted on 06/18/2003 5:39:43 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Wal-Mart sweat shops are also here in the US)
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To: XBob
"...which of the identical twins or triplets which are created after sperm and egg unite are not alive?"

Did you really mean to ask this? Because you obviously didn't stop to think about it...
They are human, they are the result of HUMAN EGG and HUMAN SPERM. Therefore,they can ONLY be human. Twice or thrice gifted, maybe more...and need not be identical either.
Monkey sperm and human egg just wouldn't be the same....ya know?
Life is a wonderful mystery. All human life before seven weeks is female. Wonder how many raging feminists and/or NARAL tell the undeniably stupid that they are murdering a little girl if they murder it before the seventh week?
PROVEN female before 7 weeks. Now how do you suspect anyone would know that and still claim there is no human life there?
42 posted on 06/18/2003 5:40:02 PM PDT by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE IN THE AM)
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To: MHGinTN
twin chickens or are they twin eggs?
43 posted on 06/18/2003 5:40:16 PM PDT by XBob
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To: MHGinTN
With each individual human embryo the Creator has arranged there to be a human soul.

But when? I thought you said it happened at conception. Now you seem to be changing the story. When exactly does it happen?

Hank

44 posted on 06/18/2003 5:41:55 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: MHGinTN; Hank Kerchief
At least one, Hank.
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Ah - twin souls.
45 posted on 06/18/2003 5:42:03 PM PDT by XBob
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To: watchin
The baby (assuming he's leans conservative) really won't be fully independent until he's eighteen or so (dems never outgrow dependence).

The US Constitution specifies the age at which a human candidate becomes fully human capable. The framers of the Constitution realized that the nation needed fully human capable people to lead the nation as POTUS.

46 posted on 06/18/2003 5:44:41 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Tailgunner Joe
you are the one insisting on making it a crime. If you do, according to many on this thread then what should be the punnishment of their god for killing 40% of the fertilized eggs.

Please ask them first - what should be their god's punishment?
47 posted on 06/18/2003 5:45:58 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Tailgunner Joe
you are the one insisting on making it a crime. If you do, according to many on this thread then what should be the punnishment of their god for killing 40% of the fertilized eggs.

Please ask them first - what should be their god's punishment?
48 posted on 06/18/2003 5:46:00 PM PDT by XBob
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To: MHGinTN
38 - "With each individual human embryo the Creator has arranged there to be a human soul."

so every other identical twin has no soul?
49 posted on 06/18/2003 5:48:07 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Paulus Invictus
Technically speaking, we have biological evidence of a new individual human life when the first cell divides (mitosis) to form two cells. The effort at survival begins when one of those two cells divides (so there are three cells present) and the construction of the placental organ starts (the embryo builds that for its own survival; many think that because the placenta is cast off at birth that it is a construct of the woman's body, but it isn't, in fact).
50 posted on 06/18/2003 5:48:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: XBob
With a pair of identical twins there are two individuals (pair = two), two individual souls.
51 posted on 06/18/2003 5:51:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Nix 2
so - all souls and all of us are female? Interesting - I guess I should be able to have lots of fun playing with myself.
52 posted on 06/18/2003 5:52:41 PM PDT by XBob
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With it, almost no one in the world is an individual, as no one can survive totally alone, those loaves of bread don't magically get into their wrappers and on the shelf all by themselves.

Bob, maybe you can't survive without Super Wal_Mart but I sure the heck can.

53 posted on 06/18/2003 5:55:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: XBob
I know what they think. I'm asking you.

You said that abortion was okay because the fetus wasn't an induvidual. If you think killing "viable" fetuses is wrong, then what should be the penalty?

Most pro-aborts use arguments like these but don't really care whether the fetus is a person or not, and believe in abortion on demand.

54 posted on 06/18/2003 5:56:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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51 - "With a pair of identical twins there are two individuals (pair = two), two individual souls."

So, then one cell (a zygote) has two souls?

Very interesting.
55 posted on 06/18/2003 5:57:02 PM PDT by XBob
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks...nice!
56 posted on 06/18/2003 5:57:49 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Where are my anti-anxiety pills?!)
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To: MHGinTN
51 - "With a pair of identical twins there are two individuals (pair = two), two individual souls."

So, then one cell (a zygote) has two souls?

Ah - and they are both Female. Does that mean your god is female? (And god created man in his own image)?
57 posted on 06/18/2003 5:58:41 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Anyone who truly believes in G-d, even when it isn't *convenient,* would not agree to an abortion in the first place if the truth was ever told to the lot of them. Isn't that one of the reasons everyone's kids are having a devil of a time learning anything in the propaganda palaces the government calls public schools?
Maybe a better question for you is what happens to the souls of all the murdered innocents?
58 posted on 06/18/2003 5:59:16 PM PDT by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE IN THE AM)
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To: XBob
Male and female, He created them...

Read the whole thing. Half a truth is as good as a lie.
59 posted on 06/18/2003 6:01:13 PM PDT by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE IN THE AM)
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To: jwalsh07
53 - man is a social animal.

"Bob, maybe you can't survive without Super Wal_Mart but I sure the heck can."

Strip naked and live in the woods, alone.

Even our famous modern mountain man 'Eric ...,' raided the dumpster.
60 posted on 06/18/2003 6:02:39 PM PDT by XBob
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