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Family pet was eaten, police told
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | 6/14/03 | MICHAEL FRAZIER

Posted on 06/18/2003 3:11:07 AM PDT by Buckwheats

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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Kinda reminiscent of your recent tagline:

I like puppies, but I don't think I could eat a whole one. ~Anonymous

21 posted on 06/18/2003 5:10:41 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: Buckwheats
They could be related to Bill and/or Roger Clinton.
22 posted on 06/18/2003 5:24:25 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Buckwheats
Maybe this will start a trend. It sure would make the Vets' lives easier. I am also willing to bet most veterinarians would agree that the elimination of chows would be a positive thing.
23 posted on 06/18/2003 5:31:48 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Buckwheats
I find this simply horrifying, and cannot bring myself to even see any humor in killing and eating a beloved family member. This is too repulsive for words.
24 posted on 06/18/2003 5:39:18 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (This tag line is optional)
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To: Buckwheats
Satanic.
25 posted on 06/18/2003 5:45:43 AM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: alwaysconservative
Dogs and cats are animals. There is no moral reason one could not eat a dog or cat if the situation warranted it. I am fond of our pets, but if it came down to eating them or watching my family starve I'd fry them up like catfish.

That being said: domesticated animals should be off limits as food unless the physical survival of a human being is at stake. Dogs and cats trust us, and to betray that trust by preying on them denigrates the dignity of the human person.

Since there was no survival issue involved in this case, I'd say this is straighttforward cruelty. A dog is not a person, but God made them with the ability to love us, and that alone puts them at the top of the heap. To torture a family pet to death and use it as food is disrespecful of the nature of Dog.
26 posted on 06/18/2003 6:02:42 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: alwaysconservative
I also find it horrifying and repulsive but, how old are you? Have you never heard of or experienced 'black' humor; 'gallows' humor?

One technical correction: They didn't kill and eat THEIR beloved family member. They killed, grilled and ate THEIR BUDDY'S beloved family member.
27 posted on 06/18/2003 6:06:06 AM PDT by Buckwheats
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To: B-Chan
Dogs and cats trust us, and to betray that trust by preying on them denigrates the dignity of the human person.
_____

Thanks,
As a pet owner...and I would like to add that I feel that way about all animals in our care....

Even those meant to be eaten....
The way they are treated reflects back on us too.
28 posted on 06/18/2003 6:12:50 AM PDT by najida (What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
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To: joan
Isn't Jonesboro, Arkansas where there was a school massacre back in 1998 by and 11-year-old and 13-year-old?

That is exactly what I was thinking when I read the article... Jonesboro, hmm.

29 posted on 06/18/2003 6:32:01 AM PDT by msdrby (I do believe the cheese slid off his cracker! - The Green Mile)
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To: Buckwheats
Nothing wrong with eating dogs, but if they wanted to eat one so bad why didn't they just go and get one from the pound, or one of the 'free to good home' mutts people are always giving away?

30 posted on 06/18/2003 6:50:38 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Start colonizing the Moon and Mars so I can get off this loony bin they call Earth.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh my...
31 posted on 06/18/2003 6:54:43 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: 2Jedismom
Sometimes I wish God would just call down and zap some of these people.

And the replies from 'freepers' on these kind of threads turn my stomach as much as the story...

Luckily, I am too busy today to dwell on it... gotta go.
32 posted on 06/18/2003 7:05:58 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Chewbacca
It's just human nature. You always want to eat the dog you can't have.
33 posted on 06/18/2003 7:09:56 AM PDT by Buckwheats
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To: Buckwheats
When my parents lived in Korea, they would give a neighbor food scraps to feed to their dog. One day, they asked where the dog was..."Bow-wow go chop chop"...was the answer..and they rubbed their tummies.

My folks were horrified they had been fattening the dog up to be a meal.

I am still SHOCKED this incident happened in Arkansas. We don't kill pets and eat them...duhhh.

34 posted on 06/18/2003 7:20:54 AM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife (No good deed goes unpunished)
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To: Buckwheats
These Arkansas barbecue threads aren't quite as good as the "Carolina vs. Tennessee vs. Texas" ones.
35 posted on 06/18/2003 7:28:04 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: jigsaw
I swear it wasn't me!!!!! (Seriously, this is a horrible story...I'm the mommy of a beautiful dog/son, and I would never get over something like this. I think I'd be in a rage until the day I died.)
36 posted on 06/18/2003 8:23:29 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm indifferent, but it's a crisp indifference.)
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To: B-Chan; Buckwheats; doug from upland
Dogs and cats are animals. There is no moral reason one could not eat a dog or cat if the situation warranted it. I am fond of our pets, but if it came down to eating them or watching my family starve I'd fry them up like catfish.

That being said: domesticated animals should be off limits as food unless the physical survival of a human being is at stake. Dogs and cats trust us, and to betray that trust by preying on them denigrates the dignity of the human person.

I just know that I'm about to get flamed for this, but your survival NEVER EVER is dependent upon eating animal flesh. Although you say that there is "no moral reason" one could not eat a dog or cat, that contradicts many, many passages in the Bible, such as Genesis 1:29, Isaiah 11:6-9 (the prophecy of the coming kingdom of Heaven when even carnivores such as lions will eat "straw" instead of flesh), and even Paul's letters in the NT show that he was aware of the sinful consequences of eating meat, according to Romans 14:21 and 1 Corinthians 8:13 (The latter verse is often cited to say that Paul himself was a vegetarian).

B-Chan, I agree with your comment about betraying the trust of the animals that God gave to love us, but I just need to let you know that I extend that to all creatures who are given life and breath from God, as part of my belief (including the defenseless unborn). Buckwheats, I normally have a pretty good sense of humor, even macabre humor, but this deliberate infliction of cruelty leaves me almost unspeakably sad and unwilling to stay silent. I appreciate your posting this article, no matter what flack you might get for doing so. Doug, I thought you might be interested in this thread.

37 posted on 06/18/2003 9:12:23 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (This tag line is optional)
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To: alwaysconservative
your survival NEVER EVER is dependent upon eating animal flesh... I extend that to all creatures who are given life and breath from God, as part of my belief

SITUATION
Trapped in a mineshaft: Joe and me and Tim. Days away from rescue. Strength must be maintained to help lift Tim out. No way to get food down collapsed mineshaft. Only other occupant of mine: Fluffy, the Mining Poodle.

QUESTION
Who gets eaten?

***

Every time one rinses with mouthwash, one kills millions of bacteria -- tiny animals, each given life by God. (To a bacterium, Listerine is like hydrochloric acid is to us -- they dissolve in it.)

Is it wrong to use mouthwash?

38 posted on 06/18/2003 10:20:45 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Every time one rinses with mouthwash, one kills millions of bacteria -- tiny animals, each given life by God. (To a bacterium, Listerine is like hydrochloric acid is to us -- they dissolve in it.)

Is it wrong to use mouthwash?

Killing those bacteria is self-defense of your health. The bacteria can cause gum disease leading to heart problems and tooth loss.

39 posted on 06/18/2003 11:07:50 AM PDT by joan
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To: B-Chan
LOL! Thanks for the grin! Are you sure that while are trapped in the mine in this manner, you want to expend the energy necessary to kill, dismember, and digest raw Fluffy (and ick, process the remains while trapped) when the human body designed by God is usually perfectly capable of surviving without food in these circumstances for at least 3-4 weeks (and is usually the better for it)? Now, you cannot be without water, on the other hand, for more than three to four days, and I don't think Fluffy is a good source of water. Starvation under these circumstances is HIGHLY unlikely.

As to the mouthwash, go ahead and be healthy! Gargle in peace! There are perhaps billions of living organisms on the plants we are given to eat, and I hardly think that bacteria, or those invisible organisms we ordinarily consume along with our food qualify as "animal flesh". Questions like these are why I'm a vegetarian, and NOT a vegan (now some of those people are really nit-picky!).

BTW, there is an EXCELLENT book dealing with vegetarianism written by President Bush's former speechwriter, Matthew Scully, called: "Dominion, the power of man, the suffering of animals, and the call to mercy". It is extremely well-written, and helps prove that conservatives can eloquently make the case for compassion towards animals, even if everyone doesn't become vegetarian.

Again, thanks for the post!
40 posted on 06/18/2003 12:10:30 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Long live Fluffy!)
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