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Posted on 06/16/2003 11:43:22 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: twigs
Religions evolve as societies evolve. Islam is overdue for a major overhaul, but Christianity is also coming up for renewal, not major like Islam, but still, some things need cleaning up. Paganism was popular before Christianity and some say that's what evolved into Christianity. Maybe so. I don't know that neo-pagans have any corner on religious truth, but their presence indicates that not all is well with the mainstream.
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posted on
06/17/2003 11:59:50 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(gazing at shadows)
To: cicero2k
I wonder who these people are. They obviously don't have to work for a living. I don't know anyone who could just take off to a protest like that, unless they're retired.
Carolyn
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posted on
06/17/2003 12:12:43 PM PDT
by
CDHart
To: Semper Paratus
I think they were the "People Against Goodness And Normalcy".
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posted on
06/17/2003 12:14:41 PM PDT
by
LanPB01
To: RightWhale
I don't know all that much about paganism, but I can say with assurance that it did not evolve into Christianity. Paganism and Christianity have, and alway will be, at total odds. Each is diametrically opposed to the beliefs of the other, regardless of what some might say.
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posted on
06/17/2003 12:22:39 PM PDT
by
twigs
To: jedwardtremlett
I've always been baffled by the peacenicky tendencies of the majority of pagans. Aren't we supposed to worship nature? How do other animals deal with threats to themselves, their young, their food supply, etc.? I see a lot of fangs and claws and poison-injectors out there. Peacenickiness isn't nature's way.
To: AnalogReigns
Basically a bunch of very mixed up people--some old hippies that took the age of Aquarius seriously, and most folks their kids' age (or grandkids) who wish they could be hippies now....dying for something as urgent as the Vietnam war to protest. I went to a pagan festival here in my hometown (a friend and his band were playing at the event) and your description pretty much sums it up--life's losers that need to rent a manufactured identity to feel good about themselves rather than cultivate their own.
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posted on
06/17/2003 6:06:44 PM PDT
by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: honeygrl
Thanks for coming to our defense. I'm a conservative, pro-religion pagan too, and there are more of us than most people imagine. The people who hang out at these protests are just more visible than those of us who have better things to do. And there would be a lot more conservative pagans if young pagans weren't always hearing conservatives railing ignorantly and hatefully against pagans. If they're made to feel unwelcome in conservative circles, they'll run over to the camp that welcomes them. Not a good strategy for conservatives who want to reclaim our nation from creeping socialism.
To: twigs
I don't know all that much about paganism, but I can say with assurance that it did not evolve into ChristianityYou are quite right - although elements of paganism were incorporated into Christianity to make it more "palatable" to the masses.
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posted on
06/17/2003 7:46:19 PM PDT
by
Aracelis
(Oh, evolve!)
To: RightWhale
I don't know that neo-pagans have any corner on religious truth, but their presence indicates that not all is well with the mainstream.An understatement...
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posted on
06/17/2003 7:48:00 PM PDT
by
Aracelis
(Oh, evolve!)
To: RightWhale
Probably Wiccans
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posted on
06/18/2003 8:06:53 AM PDT
by
Tailback
To: GovernmentShrinker
That's true! Nature is red in tooth and claw, and for a damn good reason.
I think the situation devolves from a lot of people coming into Paganism as some kind of protest against traditional religion in general. They don't like Jerry Fallwell but they realize that life without spirituality can be pretty empty, so they flock over to us and wanna be part of the sekrit klubhouse. And they're often the same ones who constantly make 'x-tian' jokes and have nothing good to say about monotheism at all.
To them, being Pagan is just one more way to stick it to 'the man' or 'authority' in general. So they'd be out protesting the war whether they were Pagan or not.
Now, if someone is Pagan and finds that they really can't support armed action because of their beliefs, I can respect that. But I have to wonder how much thought and conviction's really gone into the actions of the majority.
J
To: cicero2k
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Pagans are behind Peace, Trade, and Environmental Protests
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
and with strange eons even death may die."
To: cicero2k; newgeezer
The problem with nations with a lot of pagans is, they are really easy to defeat in a war. Look at Indians here in the US or Africans when rounded up for slave trade. Paganism is so hung up on drugs and sex that they forget things like defense. That hangup still exists. We'd all love to live a hedonistic/pagan life style but it sure puts you in chains after a while.
Did I mention that it also leads to hell.
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posted on
06/19/2003 11:50:01 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
To: GovernmentShrinker
The fact that the WTO and the World Bank are rotten, insidious institutions is probably about the only thing that far left and far right agree upon. Oh, and count me as a pagan too.
To: GovernmentShrinker
I'm glad to see this didn't devolve into a bash-fest.
Personally, I'm glad to have a few pagans on the payroll. If you're willing to pull back a charging handle to defend freedom, then we've got a bunk in the barracks for ya.
I concur with folks here, that there are a few '60's refugee hipsters among the pagans, but also, THEY are the ones the sheeple will see due to the free air time, provided by the mediots.
Glad to have these fellow conservatives aboard.B*B, y'all.
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posted on
06/19/2003 3:46:08 PM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(Serving the Home Front on Operation Noble Eagle!)
To: biblewonk
The problem with nations with a lot of pagans is, they are really easy to defeat in a war. How would you characterize the Rome before Constantine?
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posted on
06/19/2003 5:13:09 PM PDT
by
MattAMiller
(Down with the Mullahs! Peace, freedom, and prosperity for Iran.)
To: Old Sarge
Thanks for the support!
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