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Welcome To The Hotel California
PipeLineNews.org ^ | June 16, 2003 | William A. Mayer

Posted on 06/16/2003 9:15:23 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic

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To: Joe Hadenuf
For an interesting take on what Bush says versus what Bush does, try this:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64476-2003Jun16.html?nav=hptop_ts
81 posted on 06/16/2003 10:20:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
Yep, best surfing in CA outside of the Ranch. One of the great mysteries of life, however, is how the 3 best waves in the entire Americas (including central & south America) happen to be in southern California: Rincon, one of the 10 best waves in the world, Malibu (yes, it really is a world-class wave and not just a gimick) and Trestles (right outside Nixon's front door at his western White House), in that order.

The whole point of the original 'Endless Summer' was to find waves as good as Rincon & Malibu. Only a handful exist in the world, all in the Indian and S. Pacific oceans.

82 posted on 06/16/2003 10:24:39 PM PDT by Snerfling
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Although it does certainly diminish your "California is great" load of crap.

I've lived all across this state, and am a native son.

When my education is finished (2005), I am packing up, never to return.

California is hell, or, as one freeper put it "These people who defend California mostly do it on the weather. But that makes the state like a beautiful prostitute- lovely on the outside, disgusting and diseased within."
83 posted on 06/16/2003 10:25:47 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Nil igitur mors est ad nos neque pertinet hilum/quandoquidem natura animi mortalis habetur)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
And Cleveland rocks!
84 posted on 06/16/2003 10:27:41 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Nil igitur mors est ad nos neque pertinet hilum/quandoquidem natura animi mortalis habetur)
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To: Dianna
I visited Ohio one summer and was completely shocked by the fact that people are friendly.

You can't beat that down to earth, Ohio friendliness. No big city madness there, that's for sure!

CINCINNATI - The mayor declared a state of emergency and announced a citywide curfew as riots over the police shooting of an unarmed black man stretched into a fourth day yesterday.

Only people going to and from work will be allowed on the streets between 8 p.m. and 6 a.m., Mayor Charles Luken said.

"Despite the best efforts of the good citizens of our city, the violence on our streets is uncontrolled and it runs rampant," Luken said at a news conference at City Hall.

85 posted on 06/16/2003 10:33:05 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: TheAngryClam
LOL!
86 posted on 06/16/2003 10:33:20 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: TheAngryClam
By your name, I'll bet you live in Pismo Beach.
87 posted on 06/16/2003 10:38:53 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Lancey Howard
You do realize, of course, that a sizable portion (if not the bulk) of the folks who want to recall Davis are teachers and other government parasites who are concerned that their ox is going to be gored?

Huh? LOL! Who gives a damn what they want. They are going to get gored anyway. LOL! When this is over, they'll be lucky to get a paycheck.

On the other hand, last Friday Davis shot off his mouth again and said it was the far right wing that is behind this recall.....LOL!

Vast right wing conspirator # 2583875 checking in. Gawd I love the political chaos.

Hell even if feindstein got in, after watching Gray Davis run down the capital steps on fire, chasing his staff, she'll make Janet Reno appear calm and steady. It'll be a hoot. I wont miss it for anything......Hehehe....

Mark my words, this will be better than Jerry Springer running for governor of Ohio......

88 posted on 06/16/2003 10:57:40 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Sorry Joe -- I usually agree with you. But throwing Davis out of office will lead to permanent Democratic rule. It's the dumbest political move Pubbies could make. Either the Pubbie who's elected to replace Davis will be blamed for the mess Davis has created and will be defeated in the next election, or a Rat like Feinstein will be elected and will blame it all on Davis. Either way, Pubbies lose.

I know I'll catch flack now but wait a couple of years and review this. We need to saddle Davis with the disaster he's brought into being and make him (and his party) take full blame for it at the next election. An outraged electorate might get rid of the entrenched Flower Children running the Legislature and make a huge difference in the way the state is run. Anything less is just Charlie Brown convincing himself Lucy won't pull the football away at the last instant.

89 posted on 06/16/2003 11:06:30 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
We'll see. My bet it can only help. Besides, when someone is imcompetent in their job, they need to be fired. It's the right thing to do. Plain and simple.

And hey, it will be a lot of fun to watch!

90 posted on 06/16/2003 11:14:33 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Bernard Marx
We need to saddle Davis with the disaster he's brought into being and make him (and his party) take full blame for it at the next election.

He already is, and no one is going to forget who caused this state budget mess.

91 posted on 06/16/2003 11:15:35 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
ROFL!! I don't spend time in Over-The Rhine, just like I didn't spend time in downtown LA. No difference there. But I'm talking about regular people, neighbors and store clerks, strangers standing in a line.

See, in real life, people can wear glasses or be a little chubby or even be brunette and they are still worthy of being noticed. Hard concept for Californians, I know.

92 posted on 06/17/2003 12:24:55 AM PDT by Dianna (space for rent)
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To: Bernard Marx
I totally disagree, there is almost no way to lose by throwing Davis out of office!
93 posted on 06/17/2003 8:35:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran Mullahs will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: jonno
bttt
94 posted on 06/17/2003 8:40:12 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Dianna
ROFL!! I don't spend time in Over-The Rhine, just like I didn't spend time in downtown LA. No difference there. But I'm talking about regular people, neighbors and store clerks, strangers standing in a line.

I thought you'd like that.....Hehehe.

See, in real life, people can wear glasses or be a little chubby or even be brunette and they are still worthy of being noticed. Hard concept for Californians, I know.

I know what you mean, we have the only stretch limo convertible in the neighborhood, with a big ol red devil hood ornament, and no one even bats an eye.

95 posted on 06/17/2003 9:12:08 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: johnqueuepublic
That is true, although there are very few places that have waves like Steamer's Lane in Santa Cruz.

Guess I am paying a lot for each wave I ride.

96 posted on 06/17/2003 9:15:51 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
Well, you could be sitting Ding Dong Texas for less money. Or maybe Toad Suck Arkansas...I didn't make those up.
97 posted on 06/17/2003 9:37:54 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
You have raised an excellent point. Want to know one of the likely outcomes for Kali? Think "Rustbelt." Some of the so called "rustbelt" states are seeing a second wind as low cost relo spots for both individuals and corporations.
98 posted on 06/17/2003 10:06:19 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: All
I have to chime in here. I just got laid off about 3 weeks ago from a job where I did computer and network support and made pretty decent money. I live in California (as did my father, his father, his father before him and a few generations before that).

I need an expanding tech sector. Yes, I guess that I could do something else at a big cut in pay- but the cost of living here is such that it just doesn't make any sense to do so. Between that, and the governmental insanity, the dire financial straits that Davis has created after inheriting a large budget surplus and various other things, I have had enough.

I will take whatever work that I can find that pays more than Unemployment Insurance just for the purpose of engineering my escape from California. I have already started paring down my accumulation of material things that encumber such a move. I am going to move this effort into high gear to empty the house out ASAP, so that I can bail at a moment's notice.

It pains me to do so, I have been here for so long, but its time to go.
99 posted on 06/17/2003 10:20:43 AM PDT by Riley
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To: Riley
Good luck to you Riley. Just watch out for those 45 other states that are following the exact same economic path.
100 posted on 06/17/2003 10:28:11 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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