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DEATH OF WORKER CAUGHT IN MEAT MACHINE PROBED
The Houston Chronicle (Associated Press) ^ | 14 June 2003

Posted on 06/15/2003 6:24:17 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: glorgau
This is straight out of Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle".

They use everything but the Ay Carumba!

21 posted on 06/15/2003 7:48:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: wimpycat

You're entirely correct about lock out/tag out.. Something so simple that's constantly ignored.

I have seen situations though where the production managers (I was in Quality, so we didn't have these problems) will poo-poo the whole idea of safety. They train on it, so they can say it was done.. but in practical application they discourage even simple things like lock out.

The employee is caught in the middle. They don't want to make their boss mad by slowing his production line..

IMO, These safety procedures begin and end with the supervisors. A super or manager who reams an employee for failing to follow procedure will get his procedures followed to the letter. A manager or super who has disdain for safety, wont.

22 posted on 06/15/2003 7:48:56 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: strela
Title: The Architects Sketch
by John Cleese and Graham Chapman
From: Monty Python's Flying Circus, 20 October 1970

Scene: A large posh office. Two clients, well-dressed city gents, sit facing a large table at which stands Mr. Tid, the account manager of the architectural firm.

Mr. Tid: Well, gentlemen, we have two architectural designs for this new residential block of yours and I thought it best if the architects themselves explained the particular advantages of their designs.

There is a knock at the door.

Mr. Tid: Ah! That's probably the first architect now. Come in.

Mr. Wiggin enters.

Mr. Wiggin: Good morning, gentlemen.

Clients: Good morning.

Mr. Wiggin: This is a 12-story block combining classical neo-Georgian features with the efficiency of modern techniques. The tenants arrive here and are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort, past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these...

Client 1: Excuse me.

Mr. Wiggin: Yes?

Client 1: Did you say 'knives'?

Mr. Wiggin: Rotating knives, yes.

Client 2: Do I take it that you are proposing to slaughter our tenants?

Mr. Wiggin: ...Does that not fit in with your plans?

Client 1: Not really. We asked for a simple block of flats.

Mr. Wiggin: Oh. I hadn't fully divined your attitude towards the tenants. You see I mainly design slaughter houses.

Clients: Ah.

Mr. Wiggin: Pity.

Clients: Yes.

Mr. Wiggin: (indicating points of the model) Mind you, this is a real beaut. None of your blood caked on the walls and flesh flying out of the windows incommoding the passers-by with this one. (confidentially) My life has been leading up to this.

Client 2: Yes, and well done, but we wanted an apartment block.

Mr. Wiggin: May I ask you to reconsider.

Clients: Well...

Mr. Wiggin: You wouldn't regret this. Think of the tourist trade.

Client 1: I'm sorry. We want a block of flats, not an abattoir.

Mr. Wiggin: ...I see. Well, of course, this is just the sort of blinkered philistine pig-ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome spotty behinds squeezing blackheads, not caring a tinker's cuss for the struggling artist. You excrement, you whining hypocritical toadies with your colour TV sets and your Tony Jacklin golf clubs and your bleeding masonic secret handshakes. You wouldn't let me join, would you, you blackballing bastards. Well I wouldn't become a Freemason now if you went down on your lousy stinking knees and begged me.

Client 2: We're sorry you feel that way, but we did want a block of flats, nice though the abattoir is.

Mr. Wiggin: Oh sod the abattoir, that's not important. (He dashes forward and kneels in front of them.) But if any of you could put in a word for me I'd love to be a mason. Masonry opens doors. I'd be very quiet, I was a bit on edge just now but if I were a mason I'd sit at the back and not get in anyone's way.

Client 1: (politely) Thank you.

Mr. Wiggin: ...I've got a second-hand apron.

Client 2: Thank you. (Mr. Wiggin hurries to the door but stops...)

Mr. Wiggin: I nearly got in at Hendon.

Client 1: Thank you.

Mr. Wiggin exits. Mr Tid rises.

Mr. Tid: I'm sorry about that. Now the second architect is Mr. Wymer of Wymer and Dibble. (Mr. Wymer enters, carrying his model with great care. He places it on the table.)

Mr. Wymer: Good morning gentlemen. This is a scale model of the block, 28 stories high, with 280 apartments. It has three main lifts and two service lifts. Access would be from Dibbingley Road. (The model falls over. Mr Wymer quickly places it upright again.) The structure is built on a central pillar system with... (The model falls over again. Mr Wymer tries to make it stand up, but it won't, so he has to hold it upright.) ...with cantilevered floors in pre-stressed steel and concrete. The dividing walls on each floor section are fixed by recessed magnalium-flanged grooves. (The bottom ten floors of the model give way and it partly collapses.) By avoiding wood and timber derivatives and all other inflammables we have almost totally removed the risk of.... (The model is smoking. The odd flame can be seen. Wymer looks at the city gents.) Frankly, I think the central pillar may need strengthening.

Client 2: Is that going to put the cost up?

Mr. Wymer: I'm afraid so.

Client 2: I don't know we need to worry too much about strengthening that. After all, these are not meant to be luxury flats.

Client 1: Absolutely. If we make sure the tenants are of light build and relatively sedentary and if the weather's on our side, I think we have a winner here.

Mr. Wymer: Thank you. (The model explodes.)

Client 2: I quite agree.

Mr. Wymer: Well, thank you both very much. (They all shake hands, giving the secret Mason's handshake.) Cut to Mr. Wiggin watching at the window.

Mr. Wiggin: (turning to camera) It opens doors, I'm telling you.

23 posted on 06/15/2003 7:58:22 AM PDT by rabidralph (The polite term is "laugh" lines.)
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To: Jhoffa_
Amen, amen, and AAAAAAMEN!

In my experience, it isn't so much as the department managers as the line supervisors.

No matter what the rules are, practice becomes policy. For instance, if it is shown that Michael Angelo's properly trained their workers, but that supervisors rarely enforced safety procedures, then they may as well not have trained them, and Michael Angelo's may as well just bend over and take whatever's coming to them; they will have no defense.

As much a pain in the rear as OSHA is, I know that if it weren't for the constant threat of an inspection and the ensuing citations, people would cut corners for the sake of convenience and many more workers would be injured or killed. Everybody thinks, "it will only take a second to unjam this machine", rather than going through the trouble of locking out.
24 posted on 06/15/2003 8:01:44 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
They sell them at Sam's. we were just looking at some of them yesterday. We didn't buy any, thank goodness......
25 posted on 06/15/2003 8:03:37 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
You are wrong. If the company is at fault it shouldn't be operating anymore

So the workers and managers should be laid off, the stockholders retirement stolen, while the lawyers enjoy their new mansion. That's your idea of justice? Lawyers getting involved is always the most expensive way to go and should be the exception, not the rule. Lawyers in the current state of their profession are parasitic drag and do not contribute to the economy. The whole point of workmens compensation was to remove the lawyers from the process and compensate for workplace accidents in a fair and just way.

Let's say the factory was owned by the socialist government, with unlimited access to money via taxation. The plaintiffs could win and be paid billions. To prevent this, laws have been enacted that prevent lawyers from suing the government in many cases. This was fine when government was a small percentage of the economy. Now socialist industry has grown to be half the economy, and government enjoys special protection from the money leeching lawyers. This is not equal protection under the law. Private industry, what's left of it, also needs also this same sane protection. Lawyers are out of control and are doing major damage to what's left of our capitalist economy.

If you are pro-lawyer, you are pro-Democrat, the Lawyers Party, and do not belong here at Free Republic.

26 posted on 06/15/2003 8:10:10 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses
The dude is in a million pieces. This scum company has repeatedly violated OSHA standards, and apparently disabled the sensors that would shut the machine off. They deserved to be shut down.

We conservatives need to stop being black and white on everything. Eeverything is not "Lawyer bad, business good."
27 posted on 06/15/2003 8:17:13 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: templar
And didn't Jimmy Hoffa work there...??
28 posted on 06/15/2003 8:17:37 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Reeses; ItisaReligionofPeace
OSHA citations and the bad publicity alone could shut this place down. No lawyers are necessary.

But sometimes lawyers are necessary and I take exception to your harsh and hyperbolic response to someone who says so. Acknowledging the sometime necessity of lawyers does not make someone "pro-lawyer" or "pro-Democrat".
29 posted on 06/15/2003 8:18:36 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: Reeses
LOL. Apparently our idea of justice now is more Messcans in the meat chopper because in our best Frankenstein voices "Business good, FIRE, er...LAWYER BAD!!!!!"

Lawyers do suck but have Freepers ever met a case where they actually thought the business might be at fault? Yeesh.
30 posted on 06/15/2003 8:21:04 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: Reeses
If you are pro-lawyer, you are pro-Democrat, the Lawyers Party, and do not belong here at Free Republic.

Oh look, it's another self-appointed "Arbiter of All Things Conservative."
31 posted on 06/15/2003 8:23:06 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: Conservative til I die
He's the "Keeper of the Book of Conservative Members".
32 posted on 06/15/2003 8:32:57 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: Reeses
If you are pro-lawyer, you are pro-Democrat, the Lawyers Party, and do not belong here at Free Republic

That's bullcrap
33 posted on 06/15/2003 8:36:24 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: wimpycat
We should sue to get lawyer lovers thrown off the forum. :)
34 posted on 06/15/2003 8:37:32 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
A similar thing happened in California back in the '80s in a tuna packing plant. Seems some of the slicing blades were loose, the leadman waited until the girls went to lunch then climbed into the machine to do the maintenance. He didn't follow the safety procedure and lock out the power, he also didn't inform anyone of his intentions.

He was still there when the girls finished eating and one of them pressed the start button on her return.

35 posted on 06/15/2003 8:37:49 AM PDT by scouse
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
The disgusting thing is, when you eat meat...you just never know, do ya?

36 posted on 06/15/2003 8:43:42 AM PDT by Norse
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To: scouse
Argh!
37 posted on 06/15/2003 8:47:57 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
re: Sometimes lawyers actually play an important role. )))

Don't tempt me to associate sausage-making and lawyers. I might actually come up with a use for lawyers in this context...

38 posted on 06/15/2003 8:53:21 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: wimpycat
At least it was "dolphin free".
39 posted on 06/15/2003 8:54:13 AM PDT by scouse
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"Perhaps the company failed to adequately communicate safety to the workers? "

You got that straight. All the idiot switches in the world can not save low-pay semi-literate workers from themselves. Been there done that, still have the T-shirt.

They disable or remove the safety devices when you provide them. You have human resources or the safety engineer counsel them, never to do it again. They nod and smile Si Senior. Then you color code everything, then you learn to speak Spanish, it is all in vain.

It is not difficult to understand. Many of the illegals do not have technology in their culture. They have never owned a car. All of their nouns for anything technological are mispronounced English words. Electricity is magic. When you pitch a fit over them smoking cigarettes while pouring gasoline, they laugh, "gingo loco in la cabasa."

Try explaining that to a tort lawyer.

40 posted on 06/15/2003 8:54:39 AM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremists)
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