Posted on 06/13/2003 11:07:26 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
Just this year we've extended $15 billion in welfare to African dictators. American taxpayers are, under threat of violence and imprisonment, required to pay tribute to our African lords.
Thank goodness the socialists didn't win.
Examples?
Yes, after their stunning successes in North Korea, Israel, Rwanda, and Iraq it is imperative Americans continue to pay tribute to the UN.
Paul was foolish to suggest we withdraw.
Hmmm.... A lot of what I remember about the War against Iraq had a lot to do with doing right. Was rescuing Kuwait a wrong?
Was asking that the Iraqi thugs to refrain from killing their own people in retribution for rising up after Gulf War I, believing the USA would come to their aid, wrong. ? Did we not erect no fly zones to keep Saddam's regime from murdering their own, with unconventional arms no less?
Has the discovery of mass executions and mass graves left your sense of righteousness unmoved?
How did those torture camps grab you? No WMD there, just some basic issue dungeons, torture chambers replete with meat hooks, batteries, and electrical cables with alligator clips. Oh, did I mention all of the files with pictures and biographical data on their victims they kept? One thing about fascists is they loovve to keep files.
I guess all of those nuclear scientists and bio-warfare experts were on Saddam's payroll because he liked to discuss some of the more esoteric sciences over dinner at one of the palaces.
The efforts of the Iraqi fascists (Did you know the Ba'ath Party was a direct model of NAZIs?) to aerosolize anthrax, no mean task, is reasonably well documented? Do you recall the video of terorist training camps where they were practicing on animals?
I could go on, but how much justification do you think we need to intervene? You have played into the media spin trap and don't seem to recognise it.
I could go on a rant about holier than thou Christians, but I will spare you that tirade because you are a man of your own convictions, your very own individualised and personal, convictions.
Well, since you ask... yes.
If I have hired a Company of Night-Watchmen to defend my own USA-Town... and the Mayor of USA-Town decides to expend Public Monies and the blood of our Towns-men to send the Night-Watchmen gallivanting off in defense of Wahhabist-Kuwaiti-Town... then the Mayor has committed a Wrong in the illicit expenditure of Public Blood and Treasure.
Was asking that the Iraqi thugs to refrain from killing their own people in retribution for rising up after Gulf War I, believing the USA would come to their aid, wrong. ? Did we not erect no fly zones to keep Saddam's regime from murdering their own, with unconventional arms no less?
It is never a wrong to ask a Dictator not to kill his own people.
It is always a wrong for the Mayor of USA-Town to commission the Night-Watchmen to an expenditure of Public Blood and Treasure for which they are not Constitutionally hired.
Has the discovery of mass executions and mass graves left your sense of righteousness unmoved?
Entirely unmoved. The Mass Graves of Iraq are nothing by comparison to those of Rwanda and the Congo.
And yet we did nothing about those. You know why? It is always a wrong for the Mayor of USA-Town to commission the Night-Watchmen to an expenditure of Public Blood and Treasure for which they are not Constitutionally hired.
How did those torture camps grab you? No WMD there, just some basic issue dungeons, torture chambers replete with meat hooks, batteries, and electrical cables with alligator clips. Oh, did I mention all of the files with pictures and biographical data on their victims they kept? One thing about fascists is they loovve to keep files.
I remain -- Entirely unmoved. The Mass Graves of Iraq are nothing by comparison to those of Rwanda and the Congo.
And yet we did nothing about those. You know why? It is always a wrong for the Mayor of USA-Town to commission the Night-Watchmen to an expenditure of Public Blood and Treasure for which they are not Constitutionally hired.
I can continue, if you want.
It comes to this -- the Constitution does not provide any basis whatsoever for the defense of Non-Citizens in Foreign lands, no matter how much we "feel their pain". It's exactly akin to the expenditures of Public Monies on matters of Benevolence and Charity -- it's not ours to give.
The Constitution permits expenditures on National Defense for -- National Defense. No other purpose. "Rescuing Kuwait" IS "a wrong", if you're stealing monies from the US Treasury to do it.
That's why "Salman Pak" qualifies as a legitimate Casus Belli, on both Christian and Constitutional grounds. And that's why none of the other proposed "rationalizations" for War qualify at all.
Well, 50 million frenchmen can't be wrong.
That's a joke. Look it up.
There is an intuitive understanding that a mass murderer, once out from under the thumb of U.N. inspections, will spend the rest of his days making trouble for the U.S. It takes no great brainpower to see that Saddam would have the means and the motive to support terrorism against Israel directly, and against the U.S. indirectly. Fortunately, 60% of Americans agree with me.
FWIW, Saddam never messed with the US at all until we bailed out Kuwait in 1990 (who, incidentally, paid us back by masterminding the 9/11 attacks -- gotta love those Kuwaitis!!)
We may have created this Monster, but howzabout we not create any more? What's wrong with that idea?
Anyway, genocide was the reason for bombing Serbia and we haven't in five years found nearly the number of mass graves we have found in Iraq in five weeks.
True... but Serbia shoulda never been bombed at all... so I fail to see your point.
Saddam was never a "sweetheart". In point of fact, it was our very knowledge that Saddam wasn't a "sweetheart", and would use chemical weapons against Iran, which prompted the 1980's sale of chemical weapons to Iraq for use against the Iranians.
Iran was considered an Enemy (and still is); if we thought Saddam wasn't going to use poison gas against the Iranians, it would have been geopolitically pointless to sell these weapons to him.
No, Saddam was never a "sweetheart". He's always been an SOB; he was just an SOB who never messed with the US at all (and was, in fact, perfectly happy to buy bio-chemical weaponry from us) until after we went to war with him over Kuwait.
and I never knew that Kuwait planned 911.
Well, gee... I guess you learn something new every day.
The mastermind and architect of the 9/11 attacks was, of course, Kuwaiti Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (You'll remember the grizzly-looking Al-Qaeda VIP we captured last year). Just as most of the actual shock-troops were Saudi Arabian.
Remind me again why we ever bothered to protect these corrupt Wahhabist slave-ocracies?
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