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If Secession Was Illegal - then How Come...?
The Patriotist ^ | 2003 | Al Benson, Jr.

Posted on 06/12/2003 5:58:28 AM PDT by Aurelius

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To: Capriole
Not belittle the suffering of anyone who was gang raped, but could you please explain to me how this act has implications [sic] that last until the present day?
81 posted on 06/12/2003 11:23:45 AM PDT by Melas
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To: bert
James Madison and Abraham Lincoln both observed that if a state can secede it can be expelled.
82 posted on 06/12/2003 11:28:34 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
In poker there is no prize for second place ... the worst hand (( sucker )) to have is 2nd best (( good cards with no help too )) --- very seldom there are ties !

Twilight zone poker -- politics !
83 posted on 06/12/2003 11:39:53 AM PDT by f.Christian (( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
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To: f.Christian
Interesting post, but I miss your point.
84 posted on 06/12/2003 11:41:39 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
2/3 rds majority wins -- takes the pot !
85 posted on 06/12/2003 11:42:48 AM PDT by f.Christian (( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
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To: Grand Old Partisan
"...but I miss your point."

That's because you're stupid, as well as dishonest.

86 posted on 06/12/2003 11:49:23 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: f.Christian
Or how about ...

the south had parity in the senate ---

no fancy shuffle or dealing was going to help the 'lost' cause !

I have smpathies in both directions !
87 posted on 06/12/2003 11:54:09 AM PDT by f.Christian (( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
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To: mdmathis6
That you rely on your clairvoyance to rationalize away 600,000 war dead and call it part of Gods plan makes me wonder if the God you worship is Mars.
88 posted on 06/12/2003 11:58:30 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Kingasaurus; Aurelius; stainlessbanner
The minute they do so, they are a foreign country with a foreign government (who fires the first shot, even!), and then the US Congress can legally declare war on them - occupy the land - and bring those states back in once the war is won.

If I'm not mistaken,,Congress did not declare war until 3 months after Lincoln had ordered the invasion of the South.

89 posted on 06/12/2003 12:00:03 PM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: Kingasaurus; Aurelius; stainlessbanner
The minute they do so, they are a foreign country with a foreign government (who fires the first shot, even!), and then the US Congress can legally declare war on them - occupy the land - and bring those states back in once the war is won.

If I'm not mistaken,,Congress did not declare war until 3 months after Lincoln had ordered the invasion of the South.

90 posted on 06/12/2003 12:00:04 PM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: Kingasaurus; Aurelius; stainlessbanner
The minute they do so, they are a foreign country with a foreign government (who fires the first shot, even!), and then the US Congress can legally declare war on them - occupy the land - and bring those states back in once the war is won.

If I'm not mistaken,,Congress did not declare war until 3 months after Lincoln had ordered the invasion of the South.

91 posted on 06/12/2003 12:00:04 PM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: billbears
ping
92 posted on 06/12/2003 12:01:51 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: SCDogPapa
You are mistaken. Congress never declared war, which is an act taken against a foreign country not a domstic rebellion as was the Confederacy.

93 posted on 06/12/2003 12:03:04 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Well I was mistaken. I stand corrected. Thanks,,
94 posted on 06/12/2003 12:08:35 PM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Well I was mistaken. I stand corrected. Thanks,,
95 posted on 06/12/2003 12:08:37 PM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Well I was mistaken. I stand corrected. Thanks,,
96 posted on 06/12/2003 12:08:37 PM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: Aurelius
Is there anything in that article which does not fit the catagory of BS?
97 posted on 06/12/2003 12:14:14 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Poohbah
Note that the author of this bilge offers a homeschooling course. Unfortunately I fear he is representative of far too many who worship at that alter.
98 posted on 06/12/2003 12:16:36 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: SCDogPapa
Dang, dude, your "Post" button's on "BURST."
99 posted on 06/12/2003 12:18:28 PM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: ought-six
Those quotes are incorrect no matter their origin.

NONE of the founders agreed with those contentions. Not Washington, not Jefferson, not Madison, not Adams, not Hamilton, not Jackson. ALL abhorred the idea of splitting the Union. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
100 posted on 06/12/2003 12:19:01 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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