STATE DEPT'S MUSLIM WEBSITE

Jon Christian Ryter [email list] ^ | 11 June 2003 | Jon Christian Ryter

[takenoprisoner]

There's similar stuff out there on Weaver and has been for years. All part fabrication, rumor, and innuendo. None of it true.

Even David Lohr claims Weaver admitted to be a seperatist who just happened to be white...but nothing else. Nor was he a member of any organization. Moreover, Lohr claims Weaver said he was not superior anyone.

A brief summary of facts on Weaver are:
1. he is a decorated vietnam veteran
2. he moved his family to the wilds of Idaho
3. the fed wanted him to become an informant for them and he refused
4. angered at his refusal, the fed coerced him for years to saw off a shotgun for them and then when he finally did, nailed him for it.
5. he missed his court hearing for the charge claiming he never got the notice
6. marshals in camoflauge lying in wait descended upon ruby ridge to arrest him for failing to appear
7. His wife and son were killed
8. He was acquitted of all charges except for failing to appear
9. In the end, the fed settled for 3.1 million dollars in the wrongful death of his wife and son.
10. Folks like CJ have no facts, just rumors and fabrications.

Maybe CJ can produce a prior criminal record for Randy Weaver? Something prior to the shotgun being sawed off at the behest of a presumed friend who was actually working for the BATF.

[takenoprisoner]

Did that make him a member? Remember, they asked him to join and he refused. He didn't agree with their philosophy. I guess you would like to overlook that tiny little fact.

[takenoprisoner]

My recollection is admittance to one attendence not four. Either way, he was not a member nor did he join them nor did he share their views.

[Cultural Jihad]

Ahem. Why would anyone come to the defense of ... a white separatist scofflaw, ... unless he were one himself? (Did I learn your logic well?)

[Radioactive]

Yes! Yes! & YES!!!!!!!!!!!Amen and haleluia!

I've been saying that for years and I'm glad to see others comming to the same conclusion.

[takenoprisoner]

I'm not a seperatist. I don't live in the wilds of Idaho. I live in a major cosmopolitan area composed of every race and religion under the sun and known to man. What the hell would a seperatist be doing where I am?

Course I do long for a little solitude from time to time. Especially during rush hour. But does that make me a seperatist?

Are you really this desperate now? How low will you go? Islam is a religion that teaches hate. If it didn't, why are so many of it's followers today killing murdering and maiming folks? Randy Weaver never killed anyone. (Nam excluded if any)

No matter how hard you try, you can't compare Randy Weaver to Muslim terrorists. Randy Weaver is not a murderer. He professes no devotion to any fanatical religion or sect. Muslims kill in the name of allah and proudly profess so. Weaver never killed. Your attempt to paint him as a terrorist is ludicrous.

Muslims are terrorists who kill maim and mutilate. Not Randy Weaver. So get off it already.

[RLK]

I tend to agree with you. There are some innacuracies in your presentation. The reason Weaver did not appear in court was because he was told to appear at another date. Knowing Weaver was instructed to appear in court a week later, instead of the date he was accused of missing, the judge still issued an arrest warrent for Weaver giving the feds the excuse they wanted.

[takenoprisoner]

Btw, all I defend is freedom. And if one wants to be a seperatist, I believe in their freedom right to do so. If one wants to be a racist, I believe in their freedom right to do so as long as they don't by their racist actions cause harm to another nor deprive another of their god given right...

Randy Weaver was initially denied every right under the sun. Sure, in the end, justice prevailed, but not before he lost his wife and son to gung ho jackbooted thugs hellbent on revenge because he refused to inform for them.

[RLK]

Ahem. Why would anyone come to the defense of ... a white separatist scofflaw, ... unless he were one himself? (Did I learn your logic well?)

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Who did Weaver hurt, or what laws did he break other than the one he was tricked into by the feds? If Weaver wanted to separate himself from the remainder of society and live off the land without iurting others, it is nobody else's business.

[takenoprisoner]

You are correct. It was the date that was the issue.

[Cultural Jihad]

Attending Aryan Nation jamborees doesn't constitute "nobody else's business," in my estimation. We all have an interest in the discouragement of irrationality and hatred before it poisons the political landscape and destroys our civilization.

[RLK]

We all have an interest in the discouragement of irrationality and hatred before it poisons the political landscape and destroys our civilization.

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That's why I don't want government site advancing the cause of lunatic movements such as Islam masquerading as a religion.

As far as this "in my estimation" business, Your estimation isn't worth a damn and doesn't license you or the government to murder people.

[Cultural Jihad]

At this point I regard destruction of this country as having been accomplished.

That's why I don't want government site advancing the cause of ...

After having declared the death of the nation, now you want to gripe about a government webpage.

[RLK]

You are game-playing. Does the real Cultural Jihad know you are on his computer?

[jmc813]

No, it's the real him. CJ only believes in First Amendment rights for people who agree with him. If it were up to him, FR would be shut down.

[TLBSHOW]

I looked and looked and can't find the Christian life in America web site at state? Is there one there that I am missing?

[takenoprisoner]

Nor is there a site for Jewish life in America there. But I did find this during my search.

"Eid mubarak," or "May your religious holiday be blessed," is the message on the Eid stamp, honoring the two important Muslim festivals. The U.S. Postal Service issued the stamp on September 1, 2001, at the annual convention of the Islamic Society of North America. (Photo by REUTERS/TimePix)

And then just ten days later in a show of appreciation peace loving muslims blessed us in the name of allah.

[TLBSHOW]

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