Psychiatric Association Debates Lifting Pedophilia Taboo

CNSNews.com ^ | 6/11/03 | Lawrence Morahan

[dsc]

"My son just graduated from high school. He was number 2 in his class. He was given a four year academic scholarship. Yeah, that's dysfunctional."

Ooooo, that just sank in.

Just graduated high school, so presumably he started manifesting SSAD symptoms before the age of 18.

Did you make any attempt to discover the identity of and report the predator who molested or seduced him and precipitated your son's SSAD?

[Clint N. Suhks]

Any time there's a thread on here talking about pedophilia or some other perversity, he's on it. It's like a sexual weirdo thread checklist

Hehehe...how would you know Pot?

but he inevitably justifies his constant presence there by discussing his personal theory that "Libertarians are behind it all!"

Look Kevin, you’re the only one that thinks Liberaltarians and liberals are out to change society with their big experiment. Thank goodness that Liberaltarians are still the irrelevant 2% of the political population they always were, glad there’s still a little common sense left in this country.

[Terridan]

I truely believe we are all headed back to the times of the "wild west". These lunatics will gain protection by the government, but the decent people of this country will revert to protecting their own. And high time too. I pray my kids never face animals such as these. The offender(s) would never see the inside of a courtroom.

[RobbyS]

Right or wrong, Keynes was a very bright lad, and his standing shows that "homophobia" was extinct in England by his generation. George Orwell commented in 1947 that it no longer required bravery for someone to identify himself as homosexual.

[dsc]

Something I've been thinking about: how come intelligent people are wrong so often? There even seem to be some kinds of error to which intelligent people are more prone than the dimmer bulbs.

Perhaps memory, verbal facility, and intelligence are different functions, but we assume that a good memory and verbal facility indicate the presence of intelligence.

As for the entirely normal aversion that normal people have for sexual deviants, was it the case that it was extinct in 1947, or that it had become dangerous to show it?

[kuma]

If people understood the IQ testing better they would know that while it can test overall intelligence it is also designed to show that people are not intelligent in all areas but each individual has talent in a few.

A person can have an average IQ and be extremely intelligent in one area.

However, intelligence does not mean someone cannot be mentally ill. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Napolean etc... were all intelligent, but frighteningly so.

Einstein is an indisputable genius but his private life was equally dysfunctional.

Thomas Jefferson was intelligent but there is no debate his personal life was riddled with problems. He couldn't solve the problem of slavery in his own life and was unable to resolve it while in public office as well. Even though he knew it would result in a civil dispute eventually.

Often times I think that those who are pecularly talented are more inclined to be dysfunctional. It's as though they can only channel all their thoughts & energy into that one area.

[from occupied ga]

I think he misunderstands libertarians. They have a live and let live philosophy, but they also are strong advocates of protecting your family and your property. (not to mention gun ownership).

Scenario one - Liberal hears cry for help coming from daughter's bedroom and walks in on intruder. Liberal response - appeal to reason and plead with intruder not to hurt anyone.

Scenario two - Libertarian hears cry for help cominging from daughter's bedroom and walks in on intruder. Libertarian response - double tap, and maybe a couple more if the corpse is still twitching.

Granted there is a much more morally ambiguous case that made the news here a few months ago. 13 year old girl got (communication via internet) a 22 year old guy to sneak into her bedroom for sex while parents were home. Parents discovered this (what a surprise - some people are too dumb to do anything but dig ditches) Cops came and arrested 22 year old who was charged with child molestation. The DA told the media that it was pretty obvious that the girl was an active and willing participant in the whole thing and in fact it was her idea, and he regretted that he couldn't charge her with anything.

[RobbyS]

I think of the difference between Washington and Hamilton. Hamilton was obviously tremendously more intellectual than Washington, yet without Washington Hamilton could never have succeeded. After Washington's death Hamilton blundered into a fight with Adams, a fight that not only cost Adams the presidency but put the government in the hands of Jefferson. I hate to quote Gore Vidal--incidentally another example of one who is too clever by half--but Hamilton and Aaron Burr were mortal enemies because they were so much alike. Neither had what the English call judgement although each was fertile in expedients.

[Kevin Curry]

Imagine. Whenever and wherever sexual perverts try to push their foul public agenda on the rest of America I show up and push back. That disturbs the liberals and libertarians who are straining with all their energy to open the sewage sluices.

Judged from their twisted and warped perspective, resisting moral rot must seem perverse indeed.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Yeah, I've seen those "changed" homosexuals. They aren't changed.

Oh really, how many? I know two who've changed for many years with no regrets. And of course there are these myths.

I don't know why you're buying that myth.

No dear, the myth is yours and we’re sure one you need to hang on to to deal with the trauma from your poor child and uncle.

[Clint N. Suhks]

dsc: Did you make any attempt to discover the identity of and report the predator who molested or seduced him and precipitated your son's SSAD?

saramundee: Ya know what? People like you are the ones who have problems. I won't even dignify your post with a response beyond this.

He didn’t learn his behavior on his own, it always starts with an older peer. But you can hide your head in the sand and pretend it didn’t happen, homosexual predators are not going away. Hope you don’t have anymore vulnerable kids.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Whenever and wherever sexual perverts try to push their foul public agenda on the rest of America I show up and push back.

Well listen here Kettle, your opinion makes you opinionated, you should live and let evil live, and you shouldn't comment on other's opinions.

Sincerely
Pot

[Old Professer]

Species identity disorder is not listed, so far, aren't you glad?

[Qwerty]

"Define "condone" -- What steps would the APA have to take to actually "condone" pedophilia, in your opinion?"

I think the APA would have to take the stance that not only is pedophilia not a mental illness, but that it was not harmful and/or may be beneficial to children. I realize that some have made this claim, but it is NOT a mainstream idea.

[Old Professer]

I would imagine your son spent many enjoyable visits to your uncle's house while he was growing up.

[kuma]

I thought about emailing you and talking on a personal level more about myself and my own expierences. I've come to the conclusion that would be pointless and possibly only used against me in the future.

**I know it probably makes you feel better**

HIV can be carried for up to 10 years and the carrier not even be aware of it. With all the new medications people are now living 20 yrs or longer. Unfortunately I have to tell you that all you need is to give it some time. Unfortunately for me I've seen AIDS with my own eyes.

**For some reason you can't get beyond it.**

It's called facing the FACTS even when I don't want to. It's a result of caring TOO MUCH to be able to just stick my head in the sand and "pretend".

Everyone and I mean EVERYONE I've ever met that was gay/lesbian (or any sexual disorder for that matter) came from a dysfunctional family. You seem to think that careers and public achievements mean that one's family cannot be dysfunctional.

**As for my son, I am sure he will have a wonderful life. He's a wonderful human being.**

You seem to be thinking that I feel the need to personally attack your son. I don't. All of us have flaws. He's not a freak just someone with a sexual disorder.

**bigotry**

Name calling is all you have. That and all the activist propaganda you can get your hands on. Posting on this forum usually means for most people they can spot a leftist non-arguement. However, our own weaknesses often blind us in select areas.

**Bury your head in the sand**

I can tell by your replies that even if you read the information on the sites I provided you links to, you have chosen to bury your head in the sand and pretend a "gay" life is a happy life.