Thousands of Iranian Students Protest The Mullaharcy... many wounded.

Iran Press Service ^ | 6.10.2003 | Press Release

[Eala]

Rallies coming up here in the States:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/926976/posts

[Fee]

Iran's military is conscription. Many of the conscripts sympathize with the students. Cannot say the same for the Basij forces.

[SauronOfMordor]

That was not a religious dictatorship, with a decent percentage of the people thinking that it is Gods will to prop up and defend the mullahs.

The younger generation is increasingly disaffected.

This is bad news for the regime, because it's the young ones who compose the enlisted ranks in the military

[dmz]

what a short view you seem to take with the following statement "Hold on to your hats... the winds of change are coming to Iran, finally".

The word "finally" needs to be replaced with (in order to reflect reality) "yet again".

[k2blader]

Bump.

[sheik yerbouty]

The Persians had a great pre Islamic culture; the Arabs, from their owm Quranic verses "Our ancestors were bloodthirsty murderers'. Have the Arabs changed much?

[tet68]

The more the mullahs oppress them the more they will rise up.

This is just setting the stage for July 9th, may it be a
glorious new beginning.

[Vigilanteman]

The new chants have got to be music to the ears to those of us who endured 444 days of humiliation during the limp-wristed administration of Jimmy Carter.

Do not forget that the Persians had an advanced society and a logical religion (Zorastism) which respected and peacefully coexisted with it neighbors before being forcibly converted to Islam. Much of the uniqueness of Persian culture comes from their Zorastic roots.

[maro]

Something is happening in Iran that we don't fully understand. Spontaneously, thousands of young Iranians held candlelight vigils when they heard about 9/11. Their hearts have been moved, and they are ready to make a change.

[stboz]

Hold on to your hats... the winds of change are coming to Iran, finally.

Allah, raghead! Allah, Raghead!
Ptooey! Ptooey!
Rah! Rah! Rah!

Gooooo! Students!

I'll probably get banned for this one.

[Lady Heron]

I agree with you totally about the younger generation, and that there might even be a large portion of the older generation that wants out from under the Mullahs, but we were discussing the nature of falling dictatorships. I have never seen a islamic religion led dictatorship fall from within. I am not sure even historically it has happened, maybe with outside influence.

You still will have a portion of the population 10-20%(???) who will think that they are doing Gods work to destroy any uprising. I guess what I was trying to say is that Iran will be dealing with different dynamics than Romania was when that dictatorship fell. There was nobody defending Caucescu because it was God's will.

I read somewhere that in the American Revolution only a small portion of the population actually took a stand. It will depend on how many are actually prepared to fight (die) for freedom, and how many will die to save the mullahs. Not to mention that the ones wanting freedom have no guns and the mullahs do.

[SauronOfMordor]

The power and authority of the government of Iran rests upon the approval of the clergy, much like the authority of European kings rested upon the Church's teaching that the king was annointed by God to rule.

What seems to be happening in Iran is a feeling among the young that the mullahs are empowering and enriching themselves thru their offices. This leads to a growing dissatisfaction with Islam itself, leading to a perception that religion is a scam for the enrichment of the clergy

Rather than a repeat of the American Revolution, the dynamics in Iran may induce something more like the French Revolution, and the longer it is successfully repressed, the bigger the final explosion will be

[Lady Heron]

Rather than a repeat of the American Revolution, the dynamics in Iran may induce something more like the French Revolution, and the longer it is successfully repressed, the bigger the final explosion will be

Good point.

Only in the French Revolution, while it was also a reputiation of the Catholic Church, the Church did not do the governing just apporved the government, the daily governing did not have to get approved by the Cardinals and Bishops. It was a looser relationship with the Catholic Church having lost a lot of its control over the kings of Europe.

In Iran it is the mullahs that control the daily workings of the government. It is a government of religion. There will be a die hard element of the population that will fight to defend it.

I hope that this government falls easily. I just have this feeling that it won't. Islam demands islamic government and laws for its people. I think that religious islamics will feel that trying to destroy their islamic government will be a sin, and they must fight to keep it, to defend the faith.

[SauronOfMordor]

In that case, it will be a civil war between the Islamists and those who refuse to live under Islam any longer. If (as it appears) the non-Islamists are in the majority, the resulting conflict would have interesting implications for the whole Islamic world: a country which has lived under pure Islamic theocracy suddenly deciding to repudiate Islam.