More details on raid Ripon officer's words, actions collide on tape

The Stockton Record ^ | Saturday, June 7, 2003 | Linda Hughes-Kirchubel

[Henrietta]

Another case of cops lying under oath to make their actions seem reasonable and justified. For the protection of the public, I think it's high time we wired our public servants and recorded their every movement, so we can see exactly what they are up to on the job. After all, if they don't have anything to hide...

[Henrietta]

ping

[Sir Gawain]

I think it's high time we wired our public servants and recorded their every movement, so we can see exactly what they are up to on the job.

Good idea. After all, they work for us, right? (haha)

[G.Mason]

"........I think it's high time we wired our public servants......."

As a retired cop, I think we should also.

While [we're] at it we may want to do the same with the politicians.

However, I'm afraid we will all be [wired] before that happens.

[jimt]

Oinker alert.

[G.Mason]

What's the matter?

Don't like pork?

[alexandria]

Hey! Over here!

Ripon, CA. About 5mi. from Modesto, CA

[MonroeDNA]

hang them.

[Yeti]

For the protection of the public, I think it's high time we wired our public servants and recorded their every movement, so we can see exactly what they are up to on the job. After all, if they don't have anything to hide...

I think that's a good idea!

[zeugma]

I'd like to see the post-action reports of every single officer involved. Here, we have a wonderful example of what passes for policing in this country. We all know what would have been the result of this illegal raid had there not been a video camera secretly (the secrect of it is the key here - if they'd known it existed, I'm sure a 'malfunction' would have been arranged) recording the entire incident. The cops would have been believed, and the fellow would have gone to jail. I don't particularly care if he was guilty of anything or not. The actions of the officers on the scene negates any use they would have been in testifying in court.

From what I've personally seen and heard, the abusive way these cops treated this guy is exactly the way 'justice' is administered these days by a bunch of JBTs who have watched too many 'Cops' episodes.

Wonder if there will be any of the standard poice state apologists who will show up on this thread.

[Yeti]

I does sound like defense sucker-punched them in the discovery phase.

"Hey, that doesn't count! I didn't know you could PROVE I was lying!"

[Nov3]

A friend of mine got arrested in another city when he decided to stay at the wrong hotel. He checked in went out and ate and came back. There was a rather large African American man standing near his room who asked him if "he wanted a ten". He said no. He was pressed furhter to buy it and he said "look all I got is 5 dollars" and attempted to walk off. The large man said that is enough and the door to one of the nearby rooms opened up and three cops tackled him.

When he went to court they testified that he approached the officer and solicited him for the rock. This guy doesn't even drink! He needed to take a misdemeanor and a huge fine to get out of it.

When he left the court room one of the officers laughed in his face and said "when we bust someone it sticks slick".

True role models.

[Henrietta]

"When he went to court they testified that he approached the officer and solicited him for the rock. This guy doesn't even drink! He needed to take a misdemeanor and a huge fine to get out of it."

That kind of crap happens more often than we think. Someone has to cop (no pun intended) a plea to something that they didn't do because of lying cops and witnesses who have some axe to grind, or are getting let off the hook for something they DID do in exchange for testi-lying.

[Nov3]

Isn't lying under oath a felony? Where is the charge?

[secretagent]

As a result of that raid, Walton appeared in court last month on charges of possession of methamphetamine and being a felon in possession of ammunition.

The first crime has no victim and the second seems questionable to me - we might see less recidivism if we restored 2nd Amendment rights to ex-felons.

The whole premise of the raid smells.

[alexandria]

The first crime has no victim and the second seems questionable to me,

Questionable why? After all if he had *GASP!* amunition he MUST have been planning to "use" it. Problem is, they never explain how their finding a couple of shotgun shells around (IE any where on the property) equates to "knowing" someone is going to buy, borrow, or steal a gun to use it with.

[jimt]

What's the matter?

Don't like pork?

I dislike it intensely when macho rambo-wannabe JBTs masquerade as police officers.

Guys like this need to be in jail instead of soiling the uniform.

[secretagent]

Problem is, they never explain how their finding a couple of shotgun shells around (IE any where on the property) equates to "knowing" someone is going to buy, borrow, or steal a gun to use it with.

And even if he had a gun, they had no evidence that he would use it for else than self defense.

[FreePaul]

Two officers placed on leave??? Why aren't all of the officers involved in jail? How long can we put up with armed thugs mistreating people and lying about it under oath. Oh, I forgot. We've been putting up with it for too long now to change.