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The Sleazy Political Persecution of Martha
NationalPost ^ | Friday, June 06, 2003 | Alan Reynolds

Posted on 06/06/2003 4:52:30 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

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To: mewzilla
Yes she was on the NYSE board...so she like her hero Hillary REALY believe that through "special training", she has the RIGHT to abuse the rules and twist the procedures to do things "their way". Hillary used the rules of Law to break the laws as did Martha...

She is going down...because of all people, (due to her status, power and UNDERSTANDING of right and wrong manipulations concerning PUBLICALLY HELD companies)she knew better than to TRY to jack with the Feds and the SEC.

41 posted on 06/07/2003 7:41:31 AM PDT by antivenom (Your momma SO fat, she whistles bass...She so fat, her dress size has an exponent...)
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To: fml
She is going to go down because she LIED. The others (waskell and the 2 lil brokers) have finally given enough testimony and documets to SEAL Martha's lying mouth shut.

The orginal LIE was she had a "Stop Loss" order in...what she isn't telling is WHY she decided it wasn't a mere stock market "hiccup" BUT was really going to NOSE DIVE due to "pending" FDA announcement. Hence the phone calls made all around that morning...(people who place STOP LOSS orders do so because they are too busy to watch the market and want to secure their gains without playing the ticker by the minute or hour).

SOOOOOOOO She WAS given the inside skinny. WHAT she had hoped for was that her "Half Lie" would be covered up with the her "Half Truth". WELL well well in this case...Waskell and company have decided to come forward with the REAL TRUTH and Martha has suddenly been given an ultimatum...to CO-OPERTATE with the FEDS...BUT (to save her lying face) she chose NOT to and has decided to play the Hillary Victim game instead (another classic move by a Hillary worshipper).

'CEPT this time the victim game isn't gonna fly, she is a full fledge loser, and has nothing to bail her out OR to make her sympathetic.

The F_T_D poster here is doing nothing but spinning the "Martha is a vicrim news" to help inflate his stock purchase. BTW, F_T_D has made the first fatal mistake in stock buying and selling...HE (she) has gotten "emotionally" involved.

42 posted on 06/07/2003 7:56:28 AM PDT by antivenom (Your momma SO fat, she whistles bass...She so fat, her dress size has an exponent...)
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To: Reelect President Dubya
If it makes you feel any better to believe that the law makes it happen this way, go ahead an believe. But you evidently haven't got a clue what investment bankers do, and how IPOs are promoted.

Err...actually I do have a clue, I worked at Merrill Lynch for several years ;-) The folks arguing so hard for Martha are the ones who don't have a clue why this activity has to be illegal for the market to work effectively. I know that IPO's aren't a fair game for the average investor, but we are talking about shares that are already in play on the public market. When that is the case, insider info not only unfairly helps the "tippee", but it defrauds the shareholders who are not "tippees". It is STEALING from them.

43 posted on 06/07/2003 8:19:11 AM PDT by Tamzee ( It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - J. Swift)
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To: Tamsey
Err...actually I do have a clue...

The folks arguing so hard for Martha are the ones who don't have a clue why this activity has to be illegal for the market to work effectively.

Err... She hasn't been charged with insider trading, has she?

There's a reason for that.

It's practically impossible to prove unless you plea-bargain with a rat to testify against somebody, and there is no way of knowing whether the rat is telling the truth or saving his little rat ass.

But I take it your perfectly comfortable with rat-justce.

44 posted on 06/07/2003 11:03:50 AM PDT by Reelect President Dubya (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I know very little about Martha Stewart and did not even know that she was close to the Clintons. I did know she was a Democrat but had never endorsed or campaigned for a Democratic candidate in New York State. Too many Republicans buy her books and videos for her to get too political I would imagine.

What everyone seems to be missing here is the egregious abuse of Prosecutorial discretion on the part of the SEC and US Attorneys in this case. Technical reporting violations as alleged in the indictment are not normally handled this way. The SEC would usally attempt to extract a consent decree; money would be given to Government but both sides would be able to save face. The Government did NOT EVEN TRY to make an insider trading case because the eveidence of that is ridiculously weak.

There is something odd about this indictment and the timimg of it. It is possible that Martha's high profile legal team may have pissed off the Feds and pushed them into into indicting. While that is possible my conviction is that some political axe is being ground with this indictment.

As has been documented many of the "insider trading" cases of the late 1980s as indirect way of stopping hostile takeovers. When most of these convictions were overturned it became obvious that there was strong political pressure behind some of the indictments.

When the political motivation behind the Michael Milken and other prosecutions of that era came out no one really seeemed to care that much. In the public's eye Milken was a greedy parasite; So what if he had been legally railroaded?

I am sensing a similar callousness toward Martha as she is subjected to what seems to me be an unfair prosecution. Martha is rich and her whole persona seems to really irritate the hell out of a lot of working professional women for some reason. Martha seems to get particularly harsh treatment from female reporters. Whatever the reason Martha is not being portrayed sympathetically by the media.

Stepping back from this entire situation I have concluded that Martha has become "collateral damage" in the Government's desire to "get" Sam Waiksal the former CEO of ImClone. My hunch is that this entire threat of prosecution was brought against Martha to use as leverage against Sam Waiksal. That the the Federal Government is apparently pursuing vendettas against private individuals should give everyone pause.

45 posted on 06/07/2003 11:22:02 AM PDT by ggekko
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To: AndyJackson
"Being unable, and politically unwilling, to go after the folks who defrauded the investing public of probably a couple of trillion dollars cumulatively they go an try to make an example of MS."

Bingo! Bullseye! Give that man a cigar! Oops, you hit the bonus dot right in the center of the target! Give that man a Kewpie doll too!

46 posted on 06/07/2003 11:25:47 AM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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