The Pro-Life Movement's Problem With Morality

The Washington Dispatch ^ | June 6, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

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"I'm certianly not pro-choice. However, I don't think calling you an idiot is going to bring you to my point of view."

Of course not. But some here obviously prefer to do so, wildly flinging invective and thence claiming the "moral high ground".

Strangely, when such happens to me in the course of a debate, my middle finger begins to twitch. They have, of course, lost.

You are at least reasonable, and are seriously looking for answers. Some here feel they have them all already. THOSE are the ones that turn the rest of us off. Unfortunately, only a few of those are needed for the whole conservative movement to be tainted.

[Cathryn Crawford]

There's a difference between a serious discussion and a mud-flinging session.

Discussions bear fruit; flinging mud...gets everyone dirty.

[Boiler Plate]

Cathryn,

I am the product of many years of public school and oddly enough it was the last one, Purdue, that cured me of liberal bend. Abortion along with moral relativity in my humble opinion is the sympton of plain and simple godlessness. That is where the battle begins. Peace and Love.

Boiler Plate

[tpaine]

Yep, you've achieved your goal in life.

Somebody noticed you beaming..

[Lazamataz]

Yep, you've achieved your goal in life. Somebody noticed you beaming..

YAY! I'm somebody! I'm really somebody!! YAY!

[Cathryn Crawford]

Hmmm...you were once a liberal?

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PING if you haven't seen this.

[tpaine]

Laz, you've always been 'somebody' to us here on FR that care..
Why, many's the time I've argued that you deserve honors as the forums foremost fool.. But you have such awesome competition..
Some are here on this very thread, proving me point as we speak.

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Just remember that some do not come to a discussion to participate constructively...they come only to attack, and as you have seen, will do so even at those they agree on central points with.

Properly motivated, I like a good brawl myself...but I don't turn around and thwack my buddy because I didn't like the way he was punching HIS opponent!

[Cathryn Crawford]

True enough. People who know me know I love nothing more than a good fight. However, it's not right to drive people away so you can win.

[Theophilus]

Morality doesn’t bind everyone together. The only thing that does that is humanness and the logic...

Ahhhhh

"humaneness"

- the new morality. A human would have to be a god to be humane all the time. But then there's the rub. If a human is a god, then she does not necessarily have to be humane if she doesn't want to, hence the erstwhile baby becomes the invading non-human disease that must be driven from the sacrosanct body, Mt Olympus if you will, when hospitality does not suit the god.

Law: morality that is dictated, legislated, negotiated or handed down by an Almighty God carried by tradition or statute enforced by magistrates, clerics, officers, citizens and even tyrants, God forbid, are what binds people together and protects the innocent from inhumane behavior.

[Cathryn Crawford]

You changed my word. Mine was human-ness, while yours was humane-ness.

There a difference.

[ADSUM]

An excellent point of view. Well stated.

Perhaps, you may wish to also consider the consequences of abortion to society. For instance, how our society seems to not punish teen parents when they discard a new baby in the trash bin. They often get off with no jail time and also get custody of the newborn child. So life as a newborn is sometimes not worthy of protection by our callous attitude towards life.

So does our attitude about abortion only affect the preborn and the young who can not defend themselves? How about the elderly? and Others? I can see a rationalization that can lead to the euthanasia of whatever group that society deems unfit.

How many of the millions of people (aborted) would have been productive to our society and may have solved local or international problems? I know one woman who is the product of a rape and a botched abortion and is one of the most effective advocates for teaching teenagers and their parents about why to have sexual abstinence until marriage.

This is a moral problem that needs to be won by the pro life side.

Thanks for your efforts.

[LanPB01]

As fascinating as ever. At least this thread started with a logical argument.

[Lazamataz]

Laz, you've always been 'somebody' to us here on FR that care..

And if I might return the compliment, you've always been a nobody. :o)

[Clint N. Suhks]

Clint just called a gay man 'dear'. It's okay, Clint. You can come out of the closet.

Do your parents know you're on the internet?

[don-o]

This has actually been tried.

Maybe you can succeed where others have failed.

God bless.

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"At least this thread started with a logical argument."

Which, you'll note, some folk immediately attempted to derail.

[Clint N. Suhks]

I'm certianly not pro-choice. However, I don't think calling you an idiot is going to bring you to my point of view.

But being a hypocrite will?

[Qwerty]

You get a chance to look up "murder" yet?