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Chuck Colson: Like It or Not: Cardinal Arinze at Georgetown
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2003 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 06/04/2003 7:26:11 AM PDT by RAT Patrol

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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Nice to see that Colson has added the word Catholic to his vocabulary. It wasn't part of it when he described the funeral Mass of Catholic David Bloom.

I'd be surprised if Colson had anti-Catholic issues. He brought on a devout Catholic as director of Justice Fellowship, Pat Nolan. I don't know Colson, but I know Pat Nolan very well. Faith is so much a part of both of their jobs that I simply could not imagine Pat working with Colson if there was any anti-Catholic attitude.

41 posted on 06/04/2003 10:54:49 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Remole
The needs of the Church are not the needs of Europe,

Quite true, and an African speaking truth may well be more difficult to dismiss (by the West) than another white European.

I think that Africa is the focus of Christianity these next few decades,... The focus of the poverty, disease, and chaos that runs rampant through Africa will be able to be brought into sharp focus by a Nigerian Pope the same way that the despair and oppression of Communism was revealed by a Polish Pope.

Not to mention the fact that Christianity is experiencing its highest growth in Africa. The answer to Aids, as well as all that ails Africa, is more holy living.

Islam and Christianity will be engaged in a mighty struggle if Arinze ascends to the Seat of Peter, and it will be in West Africa that the conflict will be the sharpest, not Jerusalem.

I am not even Catholic, but I want a Pope who speaks up for Christians, not a syncretist or a compromiser. I do not see why an African Pope cannot speak for all Catholics, as you seem to infer, Remole. That is why the Church is called the Body of Christ. The Eurocentricism of all Christianity had its last day in the 20th Century.

42 posted on 06/04/2003 2:33:32 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Remole; Anitius Severinus Boethius
I predict a young-ish European, no older than 72, who will represent historic "Christendom" against the other major forces in the world (Islamo-fascism; Western Consumerism; Socialism; and Tribalism).

You don't think that the problems of Islamo-fascism, Consumerism, Socialism, and Tribalism can be dealt with by an African ?

Those ALL are problems keenly experienced by Africans, Europeans, and Asians, as well as those of this hemisphere.

43 posted on 06/04/2003 2:39:03 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
I agree with you, and I assure you that all of the Cardinals agree with you: but only in Principle. But the selection of the Bishop of Rome also has its symbolic elements and its practical--geo-political elements. And that is why I would bet on someone like Poupard: to the Super-Majority of the Cardinals (if memory serves, election requires 75%), a European who has years of involvement in dialogues with other cultures and faiths would represent how Rome wants the world to view the Catholic Church.
44 posted on 06/05/2003 7:31:31 AM PDT by Remole
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To: RAT Patrol; dd5339
Hey RP, have any idea how to email Card. Arinze to show our support for his stance?
45 posted on 06/05/2003 7:49:50 AM PDT by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: Vic3O3
Sorry, Vic, I have no idea how to Email the guy.
46 posted on 06/05/2003 7:55:44 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I wonder if all of these offended Catholics will suddenly be proud that the Pope spoke at their Commencement.

This riffraff is about as Catholic as my little Cairn terrier.

47 posted on 06/05/2003 8:44:14 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Nice to see that Colson has added the word Catholic to his vocabulary. It wasn't part of it when he described the funeral Mass of Catholic David Bloom.

Yesterday Lane spoke at a memorial service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. Speaking before America's most powerful media figures, Lane told a simple story about a man who loved and served Jesus Christ. It was a side of their colleague that many of them had never really known—a side scarcely mentioned in the voluminous media coverage of his death.

Above is the entirety of his mention of the Mass. Have you heard of a memorial service at St. Patrick's that has NOT been Catholic? Assuming you're Catholic, your Pecksniffian nitpicking does you or any of us no credit.

48 posted on 06/05/2003 9:36:59 AM PDT by iconoclast
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You miss several points of fact, a memorial service is not a funeral Mass and Colson mentioned that Bloom was raised a Methodist but did not mention that he was at the time of his death a Roman Catholic. In fact Colson never mentions the word Catholic once in his original piece about Bloom.

I really don't care if you consider it nitpicking and I'm certain you know what you can do with your indignation. Colson was deliberate in his slight

"But what most viewers did not know was that David was a committed Christian. David had grown up in a Methodist home. And while he had a strong understanding of the Gospel growing up, it wasn't until two years ago, according to Lane, that Bloom "effectively came to a saving knowledge of Jesus and started a real faith journey.""

"Yesterday Lane spoke at a memorial service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. Speaking before America's most powerful media figures, Lane told a simple story about a man who loved and served Jesus Christ. It was a side of their colleague that many of them had never really known—a side scarcely mentioned in the voluminous media coverage of his death."

49 posted on 06/11/2003 12:50:51 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Colson was deliberate in his slight

Oh, for heavens's sake.

50 posted on 06/11/2003 11:54:52 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

African touted as Pope's successor
By Richard Owen
02oct03

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,7436416^401,00.html

Hadn't heard of this guy before so I did a free republic search on his name for older articles....

Looks like you win a cookie!
51 posted on 10/04/2003 8:40:52 AM PDT by adam_az
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