Posted on 06/02/2003 12:18:29 AM PDT by kattracks
The story about the Marines who found an underground site with radioactivity that jumped off the charts (Torowetha or some name like that) came and went very quickly. There's got to be more to that story. There was speculation that many of Iraq's nuclear scientists had gone to Libya to work in Libya's under-mountain nuclear weapons lab.
There are a lot of suspicious leads and my guess is that we're following them out of Iraq to wherever they lead. Too much publicity about what we've actually found in Iraq will dry up the leads.
Gotta play our cards close to the vest for a while, I think.
This is the Dim's campaign theme, for '08 as well as '04.
Hearing this talk you'd think Bush went over there and kicked their asses by himself. He might have I suppose. But why and how did he convince half of the world to join in?
Maybe they didn't...yet. I for one am very happy that we didn't wait for a smoking nuclear gun before we decided to do something about it. Helllloooo?
It's not why we took out Saddam, but an assasination attempt against a U.S. President, current or former, is justification in and of itself. Clinton should have taken care of this when it happened.
If you can pull the troops, money and global political support out your anal orifice to implement your genius plan, then we'll take it seriously. For now, it's a great hardship on our people in just Iraq to remain there for just these months. And politically, we stopped just short of making China, Russia and France nuclear protected covert safe havens for anti American terrorists.
Please tell me what voting for a third party, or not voting at all, will do other than electing real dems?
It's not that I totally disagree with you on the Constitutional issues, but considering that in the last presidential election half of the nation voted for "real dems" and half voted for "dem lite" - and IIRC less than 5% voted for "real conservatives".....
I'd like to know if you have a constructive strategy on changing the mindset of the voters, if you have a suggestion about a 'real conservative who could both get elected AND accomplish something, or if you're basically planning on 'taking your ball and going home.'
Recent Iraqi defectors provide additional details of Saddam Hussein’s support of international terrorism through the 1990s. The documentary program “Frontline,” has interviewed former Iraqi intelligence and army officers with first-hand accounts of highly secret installations run by an international terrorist known to Iraqi staffers only as “the Ghost.” 36 “The Ghost” is reportedly Abdel Hussein, the chief trainer at the camp and responsible for conducting assassinations outside Iraq to support Saddam Hussein’s regime. 37 The facility contained a Boeing 707 jet fuselage used to practice hijacking scenarios. UN inspectors independently confirmed the existence of the terrorist training camps. 38
Satellite images of a facility near Baghdad show an airliner that Iraqi defectors say is used to train terrorists in the art of hijacking. Space Imaging, which operates the Ikonos civilian surveillance satellite, was prompted to look for the aircraft in existing photos after a ''Frontline'' television show interviewed two Iraqi defectors who described the hijacker training and the aircraft used for the mock attacks. One of them drew a map of the Salman Pak training area, and Space Imaging was able to find the facility and the aircraft in photographs taken on Apr. 25, 2000, of an area about 15 mi. southeast of Baghdad on the Tigris River. The zoomed-in photograph is a close match to the hand-drawn map, lending credence to the defector's story. He is Sabah Khodada, and said he worked at the secret Salman Pak complex for about six months as an administrator. The facility is run by the Iraqi secret service, and is used to teach assassination, kidnapping, hijacking of airplanes, buses and trains and other terrorist operations, Khodada said. ''This camp is specialized in exporting terrorism to the whole world.''
Iraq's Tie to Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Airline Hijackings
So...these defectors were able to draw a map of the place and then the exact location was confirmed by an independent imaging company, which proves the credibility of the defector's stories...what is suspect about that? Oh and you might be interested in the following link as well with even more info:
Mylroie: Clintonized CIA Blocking Iraq-9/11 Evidence
Terrorists that targeted Israel and not the United States.
Ummm, excuse me but isn't there a war on terrorism going on? Terrorism is terrorism, no matter who the victim. We were justified in taking out Saddam for that reason alone.
The Iraqi government did not control this part of northern Iraq
Oh puhleeeeeze...Saddam kept control of Northern Iraq through Al Qaeda and Ansar al-Islam.
In northern Iraq Tuesday, U.S. special forces rooting out the al Qaeda-linked extremist group Ansar al-Islam seized manuals on the production of deadly poison gases, chemical masks and other documentation in raids on the Islamic militants' camps. The raids in Sargat and elsewhere in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq also turned up the names of several militants believed to be living in the United States. ABCNEWS' Jim Sciutto, who is embedded with the special forces units, described the documents seized as "significant." Atropine injectors — the antidote for nerve gas — and possible al Qaeda manuals were also taken. Sciutto said the documents included information on how to blow up buildings using diagrams of the U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, which were bombed by al Qaeda in 1998, killing 224 people. There were also lists of names and phone numbers that U.S. intelligence officials were checking against lists of known al Qaeda operatives, Sciutto said. The raids were launched on Saturday against the Ansar al-Islam positions after missile and bomb attacks, and have been ongoing with the support of local Kurdish fighters. Secretary of State Colin Powell cited Ansar al-Islam as one of the justifications for taking action against Iraq in a February speech to the U.N. Security Council.
See also:
Al Qaeda Terrorists Target Iraqi Kurds
And a flashback for you to 1996...
In their struggle for power, KDP and PUK sought aid from Baghdad and Tehran respectively. That increased the tension in the Kurdish area and was negatively viewed by many Kurds. The interference of these countries along with Turkey into the Iraqi-Kurdish political situation could only complicate the Kurdish issue and increase the suffering of the Kurds. In the absence of a national and unified goal among the Kurdish political organizations in Iraq, one would not be surprised in seeing alignment between a Kurdish party and a neighbor state to achieve short-lived goals.
So yes, Saddam has power in Northern Iraq, albeit through other entitites.
Alnick is correct regardless. Former President Bush was targeted because of his Presidency, which makes the assassination attempt our business. As a matter of fact, if he'd been targeted merely because he was a U.S. citizen, it makes it our business.
Being targeted as an oil company executive, or randomly, might not make it U.S. government business, but under the circumstances, it was, and Clinton should have done something about it.
He did, didn't he? IIRC, he bravely ordered our troops to press the launch buttons on a few Tomhawks...
One side comment. You have set up a scenario where the US cannot prove anything to you because we have an ax to grind. Even if the UN went back in and found weapons, it could be claimed that we planted them there. I am a believer that the government has lied to us on a regular basis, but do you see a way for them to prove anything to you regarding WMD? What do you make of the trucks with the chemical kitchens found two weeks ago?
Additionally, who, in your opinion, is a viable candidate for the Presidency in 2004? By viable, I mean has a chance to win.
I know a lot of well intentioned Perot voters that painfully regret throwing their vote away.
so, which 3rd place loser gets your wasted vote?
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