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Doctoral candidate: Jesus was 'gay'
World Net Daily ^ | May 28, 2003 | WND

Posted on 05/28/2003 3:39:15 PM PDT by milan

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To: cavtrooper21
So gay means "celibate" now? I wonder what the gay bunch will think of that?
241 posted on 05/29/2003 11:51:31 AM PDT by Terriergal ("arm yourselves before the LORD for battle" "if you fail to do this, you will be sinning"Num32:20,23)
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To: wideawake
You cannot back it up with a shred of evidence.

Funny how someone who can’t back up ANY of his statements when asked sticks to the most obscure references as proof. He’s the 10% crowd that believes every roomer as fact and misinterpretations as Gospel.

242 posted on 05/29/2003 12:03:09 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
You're right.

It is funny.

I wonder if his inability to read English extends to Greek and Hebrew as well.

I wonder if his inability to even read the primary sources in the original language will ever stop him from making sweeping statements about things he knows literally nothing about.

243 posted on 05/29/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Aric2000
You are misrepresenting both traditional and Vatican II Roman Catholic teachings. Here are some statements on the Resurrection from the official Catechism of the Catholic Church (paragraph numbers preceding):

991 Belief in the resurrection of the dead has been an essential element of the Christian faith from its beginnings. "The confidence of Christians is the resurrection of the dead; believing this we live."

646 Christ's Resurrection was not a return to earthly life, as was the case with the raisings from the dead that he had performed before Easter: Jairus' daughter, the young man of Naim, Lazarus. These actions were miraculous events, but the persons miraculously raised returned by Jesus' power to ordinary earthly life. At some particular moment they would die again. Christ's Resurrection is essentially different. In his risen body he passes from the state of death to another life beyond time and space. At Jesus' Resurrection his body is filled with the power of the Holy Spirit: he shares the divine life in his glorious state, so that St. Paul can say that Christ is "the man of heaven".

445 After his Resurrection, Jesus' divine sonship becomes manifest in the power of his glorified humanity. He was "designated Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his Resurrection from the dead". The apostles can confess: "We have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."

655 Finally, Christ's Resurrection - and the risen Christ himself is the principle and source of our future resurrection: "Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. . . For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive." The risen Christ lives in the hearts of his faithful while they await that fulfillment. In Christ, Christians "have tasted. . . the powers of the age to come" and their lives are swept up by Christ into the heart of divine life, so that they may "live no longer for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised."

652 Christ's Resurrection is the fulfillment of the promises both of the Old Testament and of Jesus himself during his earthly life. The phrase "in accordance with the Scriptures" indicates that Christ's Resurrection fulfilled these predictions.

650 The Fathers contemplate the Resurrection from the perspective of the divine person of Christ who remained united to his soul and body, even when these were separated from each other by death: "By the unity of the divine nature, which remains present in each of the two components of man, these are reunited. For as death is produced by the separation of the human components, so Resurrection is achieved by the union of the two."

244 posted on 05/29/2003 12:16:19 PM PDT by MikalM
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To: Michael2001
There is no gay agenda (sarcasm).

I know you're being sarcastic, but there isn't ONE gay agenda. There are various agendas. Some gays want to be able to marry their partners. Some want to get through the high school year without getting beaten. Some gays want to the whole world to go queer. We have no accurate studies to know how all the attitudes break down, so I guess we're just left with our own ideas.

Is there a Christian agenda? I'd say the same as above. Some Christians want to serve God, and help their less fortunate brethren. Other Christians want to discredit all religions beside their own sect of Christianity, murder doctors who perform abortions, outlaw interracial dating, outlaw adultery, outlaw drinking...you get the idea. If I had an axe to grind, I focus on the latter group of Christians. That would be intellectually dishonest, since they are the fringe.
245 posted on 05/29/2003 12:43:59 PM PDT by Belial
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To: Terriergal
Then that will trash this guy's thesis, 'cause as far as I can tell, gay men and celebicy are just not heard in the same sentence...
BTW, have you skimmed the comments on this thread??
There is some heavy duty hack and slash going on... think I'll pass... :^)
246 posted on 05/29/2003 2:54:47 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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To: Aric2000
So was Jesus' coming prophesized in the Old Testament or was that someone else (still coming)?

Why is Jesus not looked highly upon by Jews if He was supposed to be the King of the Jews (and if what we know today of him is all just Christian rewrites of the "Truth")?

247 posted on 05/29/2003 3:27:28 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Belial
Some want to get through the high school year without getting beaten.

Nerds, geeks, and "brains" want to get through the high school years without getting beaten either.

There is no "geek agenda" though.

248 posted on 05/29/2003 3:29:09 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
There is no "geek agenda" though.

Some people might say something about Columbine High.

This is not the agenda of all geeks. Was my last post not sufficiently detailed? Some individuals pursue fractitious goals. That does not represent the goals of an entire subculture. To say all geeks are plotting killers is foolish. To say all Christians agree with Jack Chick that the Vatican is a Satanic plot is foolish. To say that all homosexuals think Jesus was gay is foolish.

If you want to be foolish in order to advance some dogmatic political position, be my guest.
249 posted on 05/29/2003 3:41:03 PM PDT by Belial
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To: Belial
Columbine was an attack on the brains and the jocks.

That wasn't "geeks" that did the firing. That was nihilist kids who thought themselves above/apart from the others.

250 posted on 05/29/2003 3:50:44 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
That wasn't "geeks" that did the firing. That was nihilist kids who thought themselves above/apart from the others.

Ok...however you want to break it down. As you can see, there can be many subdivisions in a culture.
251 posted on 05/29/2003 3:55:03 PM PDT by Belial
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To: eastsider
Those who equate "love" with "sex" are unfamiliar with the distinction in Greek between agape love (a form of the word agape is used in the phrase "the beloved disciple") and erotic love (i.e., sexual love).

Actually, those who make these observations about Jesus being gay are idiots. Even if you give them the facts, it wouldn't matter. They aren't happy unless they are downing our religious belief in one way or another, but brother, don't infringe on them! Typical liberals.

252 posted on 05/29/2003 4:15:25 PM PDT by milan
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To: Conservative til I die
Yeah, I saw what they are posting. Proof they are anti-Christian.
253 posted on 05/29/2003 4:21:13 PM PDT by milan
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To: Belial
They identified who their targets were. The same targets had been selected by some kids in the mid1960s. The account is told in Hunter Thompson's Hell's Angels (near the end where he discusses outlaw culture and what it means to America).
254 posted on 05/29/2003 4:52:01 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Belial
Just because a "culture" exists, does not mean that it should be embraced or even tolerated. Junkies have a culture. Thugs have a culture. Certainly organized crime has a culture.
255 posted on 05/29/2003 4:53:53 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Aric2000
The fact of the matter is, the guy who thinks that Jesus was homosexual is a total loon, at least we agree on something.

Sorry but just one more little gut check you probably can’t answer either…where do your obscure documents prove this either? The lie that Jesus supposedly “had children”???

Many homosexuals procreate and have for millenniums, is this your laughable justification or are you without ANY documentation again and just more of your ...it just jumps out of the page... “proof”?

256 posted on 05/29/2003 9:23:12 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: cavtrooper21
BTW, have you skimmed the comments on this thread??

Nah, the article is too preposterous to begin with.

257 posted on 05/30/2003 6:23:17 AM PDT by Terriergal ("arm yourselves before the LORD for battle" "if you fail to do this, you will be sinning"Num32:20,23)
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To: weegee
Why is Jesus not looked highly upon by Jews if He was supposed to be the King of the Jews

Cuz the Bible prophesied that too.

258 posted on 05/30/2003 6:23:49 AM PDT by Terriergal ("arm yourselves before the LORD for battle" "if you fail to do this, you will be sinning"Num32:20,23)
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To: eastsider
Those who equate "love" with "sex"

Bingo.

259 posted on 05/30/2003 6:24:42 AM PDT by Terriergal ("arm yourselves before the LORD for battle" "if you fail to do this, you will be sinning"Num32:20,23)
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To: Aric2000
"That one is easy, he made the wine at his own wedding, otherwise there is no reason for him to have been asked."

Sorry, but I'll have to disagree with you there. The Gospel of Luke records that his mother, Mary, was there and that "Jesus and His disciples were also invited". Jesus was not the groom. The reason He performed the miracle was that His mother asked him to. Scripture does not state it, but either the bride or the groom were likely relatives of Mary and she was trying to help them avoid the embarassment of appearing to be poor hosts for not planning to have enough wine on hand for the guests.

Whether that is true or not is speculation, but the Scripture is clear that Jesus was an invited guest, not the groom.

260 posted on 05/30/2003 7:02:52 AM PDT by Pablo64 ("But still I fear and still dare not laugh at the the Madman.")
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