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Led Zeppelin Flying High with New Concert Discs
Reuters (via Yahoo) ^ | 05/28/03 | Dean Goodman

Posted on 05/28/2003 1:00:57 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: Pagey
Read the whole thread later, BUMP
141 posted on 05/28/2003 9:41:45 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier -Than -Thou Socialist)
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To: Drew68
But Blackmore is truly the King of the Stratocaster.

Richie Blackmore of Deep Purple? Well, music is art and is thus open to interpretation and personal tastes but Blackmore would probably admit that players like Jeff Beck, Jimi Hendrix were the best of their time. He was a fan of both. IMO, the greatest rock guitarist is Beck. He can do things with a strat (or any other guitar for that matter) that no other guitarist can do. Especially with tone and harmonics. Watching Jeff Beck play is like watching a master magician take notes to places never before seen. It's a trip.

142 posted on 05/28/2003 10:16:28 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Drew68


Randy Rhoads is the king of the Gibson Flying V

But Blackmore is truly the King of the Stratocaster.

Blackmore rocks, but I think SRV is the king of the stratocaster..upside down and all.
143 posted on 05/28/2003 10:25:00 PM PDT by Pro-Bush
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To: jwh_Denver
There have been 2 groups that are said to be the father of heavy metal, Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. IMO Black Sabbath wins hands down.

If not for LZ there would have been no Black Sabbath. And LZ itself was inspired by Jimi Hendrix, The Who, The Yardbirds (w/Jeff Beck) and many other bands that were working in a similar "free form" Rock direction. Black Sabbath has the distinction of being one of the first to go total metal at ungodly amounts of mega watts in a pretty cool way.

144 posted on 05/28/2003 10:32:15 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Drew68
It's all because of that "We are Your Overlords" thingie around here.

Really...I think all kids still go thru a Zep faze....my 13 and 14 year old daughters still pick up my CDs of LZII or IV or HOTH when they feel like getting in a Zep state of mind....it has legs to be sure...like Floyd etc.
145 posted on 05/28/2003 10:35:23 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Mr. Mojo
Speaking of Hendrix and the best, have you ever listened closely to the "Machine Gun" on his Band of Gypsies album? It was recorded at the Fillmore West at midnight on New Year's eve 1969 (ushering in the 70's), and to this day I think it's the best guitar work I've ever heard.

I really dug that album. It was one of the best live recordings of any band of that era. The only one that comes close is The Who "Live at Leeds". And yes, Hendrix was absolutely incredible on "Machine Gun". Sadly, he passed away not long after that album was released.

146 posted on 05/28/2003 10:51:11 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Sadly, he passed away not long after that album was released.

Yep, nine and a half months later. The Isle of Wight was his last concert, and I've been wanting to get the DVD of his whole set (or sets) from that that festival ....but keep forgetting. Great stuff, especially the version of "Red House."

Jimi was broadening his style right before he died, breaking new ground (as usual). He and Miles Davis supposedly recorded a bunch of stuff together, and if true, hopefully one day (soon) the Davis estate will release it.

147 posted on 05/28/2003 11:01:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: MikeD
Jimmy Page has deficiencies as a guitar player?

Jimmy Page's genius was more in the recording room. Though an excellent guitarist Page usually had a hard time reproducing the magic on stage...for whatever reason. I saw LZ three times in concert and each time came away somewhat disappointed. Bonham and Plant seemed to carry the show.

148 posted on 05/28/2003 11:06:35 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
IMO, the greatest rock guitarist is [Jeff] Beck.

Beck hardly ever makes a public appearance, but I was lucky enough to see him play a set at the Ronnie Lane benefit for multiple sclerosis - the ARMS concert - at the L.A. Forum in '83. He was with Jan Hammer, and the musicians from his album There and Back. Anyway, he completely blew me away. Played a great "Lead Boots" and "Blue Wind" ...among others. Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton also played their own sets, so the evening was about as good as it gets. .....especially when all three giants played "Layla" together for the encore, trading off wicked leads.

149 posted on 05/28/2003 11:07:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: WRhine
LZ was maybe inspired by Jimi but they hit their stride only about a year after he did. Inspired by the Yardbirds obviously...Page was a Yardbird.

Their real inspiration was Mississippi Delta Blues and Medieval ballads and psychedlic drugs....it worked well.


Sabbath really sort of led their own way early on from a new perspetive....68/69...mainly because they eschewed the hippie sh!te from the getgo to their everlasting credit.


I don't mean to quibble but for hard-ish rock...I give the biggest early nods to the Yardbirds then Cream...and maybe a couple of early Kinks songs ...yes I'm serious....and Moby Grape and Blue Cheer.

Oddly late 60s Fleetwood Mac and the Moody Blues also contributed...riffs from the former...and oddities from the latter.....and The Animals.

I'm leaving out the Beatles and Stones and Who since they obviously influenced everyone a bit.
150 posted on 05/28/2003 11:14:54 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Drew68
Given the many discussions talking about "who's the best" guitarist, let me put in my votes for Page (obviously - it's what drew me to this thread in the first place), Stevie Ray Vaughn, and Eddie Van Halen.

To whomever commented early about missing guitar solos in today's music, I wholeheartedly agree. A lost art for sure, at least in the mainstream "music" industry. Unlike the fresh and new musical days of Zep, Pink Floyd, Queen (Bohemian Rhapsody - now THAT was different!), today's music execs don't tolerate innovation anymore. If you don't fit the image of a street savvy singing/rapping/gyrating pimp or ho, you need not apply. Music is totally secondary to image.

151 posted on 05/28/2003 11:22:34 PM PDT by MCH
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To: Drew68
Hey - has anyone actually SEEN this new Zep DVD yet? If so, please report back to this thread!

I bought the Song Remains the Same VHS tape many years back. A year or two ago I thought to research whether a DVD version had ever been released. I discovered that it had, but the reviews were less that stellar. Supposedly no remix of sound for Dolby Digital or even Dolby Surround, no video cleanup or re-edit, little to no additional material. Just a straight dump of the original tape version to DVD.

I was less than impressed with the reviews for the DVD version of Song Remains the Same, and didn't even bother to buy the DVD version. Hopefully they'll do a better job with this new product.

152 posted on 05/28/2003 11:27:49 PM PDT by MCH
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To: T. Jefferson
However, like Clapton once said, the best guitar player in the world is probably pumping gas somewhere. Randy California was undoubtably the best at reproducing Hendrix.

Well, SRV and Robin Trower have done pretty good imitations too. Though it's kinda tough imitating Hendrix's fluid and spontaneous style. He'd play a riff, twist it, turn it inside out then go in an unexpected direction. Beck does the same thing. And went it comes to raw power solos Clapton was truly one of the best. I agree with Clapton, there is a lot of great talent in the country that unfortunately never gets the opportunity to get recorded. I know quite a few talented musicians that gave up on the field and went into different professions.

153 posted on 05/28/2003 11:33:17 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: wardaddy
LZ was maybe inspired by Jimi but they hit their stride only about a year after he did. Inspired by the Yardbirds obviously...Page was a Yardbird.

True Page was a Yardbird but he only stayed with the band for about a year at the most after Beck left. Jeff Beck was the driving force that made the Yardbirds a cutting edge band. Something Clapton could not do...or Page for that matter. But I suspect in Page's case he was busy working on putting his own band together and marked time with the Yardbirds.

I don't mean to quibble but for hard-ish rock...I give the biggest early nods to the Yardbirds then Cream...and maybe a couple of early Kinks songs ...yes I'm serious....and Moby Grape and Blue Cheer.

You won't get an argument from me there. Oh and Blue Cheer made up in Volume what they lacked in talent. A true mark of an pioneering heavy metal band.

154 posted on 05/28/2003 11:53:12 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Mr. Mojo
Jimi was broadening his style right before he died, breaking new ground (as usual). He and Miles Davis supposedly recorded a bunch of stuff together, and if true, hopefully one day (soon) the Davis estate will release it.

Yeah, I'm convinced that Hendrix was well on his way towards Rock/Jazz fusion back then. He was a musician well ahead of his time.

155 posted on 05/28/2003 11:58:15 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Mr. Mojo
Beck hardly ever makes a public appearance, but I was lucky enough to see him play a set at the Ronnie Lane benefit for multiple sclerosis - the ARMS concert - at the L.A. Forum in '83. He was with Jan Hammer, and the musicians from his album There and Back. Anyway, he completely blew me away. Played a great "Lead Boots" and "Blue Wind" ...among others. Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton also played their own sets, so the evening was about as good as it gets. .....especially when all three giants played "Layla" together for the encore, trading off wicked leads.

I heard that was a helluva show. BTW, Beck in the last few years has got somewhat active again. I guess he has a new album in the hopper which will be released soon (June I think) and there will be a tour. Right now he is doing a limited tour with BB King.

156 posted on 05/29/2003 12:10:43 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: MCH
I picked it up Tuesday morning at Target for $15.99. Disc One is mostly live at Royal Albert Hall in 1970. Video and the remix to 5.1 audio are very well done. Page's playing is kind of clunky at several points. The rest of the band is tight. Disc Two is mostly at MSG in 1973, Earls Court in 1975 and Knebworth in 1979. Again video and audio are excellent. Except for a few brief passages Page really delivers the goods. The performances on Disc Two are the stuff that creates rock legends. Get it. You won't be sorry.
157 posted on 05/29/2003 12:45:09 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Drew68
Jimmy Page is in my opinion one of the best musicians ever
158 posted on 05/29/2003 12:48:05 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: dorben
Your welcome. Zep is great. It's funny, it took me into my 30's to really like the band or any classic rock, for that matter. The sight is a good one in that it gives all the lyrics to all the songs.
159 posted on 05/29/2003 2:55:23 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: Drew68
Drew,

I can't disagree with that statement.
160 posted on 05/29/2003 2:57:20 AM PDT by sargunner
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