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Led Zeppelin Flying High with New Concert Discs
Reuters (via Yahoo) ^ | 05/28/03 | Dean Goodman

Posted on 05/28/2003 1:00:57 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: sirchtruth
My favorite band is RUSH and they still surprise me even today, but something is missing and I think you nailed a word here that says it all.

GREAT band! I spent a day (a release day) at the mall waiting for Grace Under Pressure to arrive. Unfortunately, release day does not equal "day album arrives at store..."

121 posted on 05/28/2003 7:08:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (There be no shelter here; the front line is everywhere!)
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To: Drew68
As I said before, Ritchie Blackmore is the King of the Stratocaster.

We all have opinions. I've played for 20+ years, have CD's out that some people have heard of. I played in many copy bands, and speaking for myself, I could figure out and reproduce anything RB played within minutes. The other 3 were all extraordinary groundbreakers I feel, that few can reproduce to the T. I can pull off most of the tunes, but some SRV tunes took weeks, and even then anyone would admit it still is not the same. To clarify, I shoot for the exact tone, dynamics, string bending, etc. SRV played predominately clean, which I've found much more difficult than hiding behind feedback/distortion. I've seen all but Hendrix play, and I was huge Blackmore fan as a teenager, but he was painfully sloppy and off tempo live. He himself couldn't reproduce RB. (J. Page was just as bad live. By contrast, Eddie Van Halen was a better player live both times I saw him, and certainly is one of the best). We all have favorites, reproducing SRV's "Little Wing" version is most humbling.

Check out "Chris Duarte..Texas Sugar, Strat magic." From Austin, good strat player; his follow up CD's aren't as good. I saw Joe Bonamassa few weeks ago, pretty impressive strat boy.

My equipment, 78 Les Paul, Strats, Kramer, Dean Flying Z..Mesa Boogie for clean, Marshall for distortion. Best of luck on your playing, and turn it up. Check out Line 6 equipment, awesome for studio work (direct box).

122 posted on 05/28/2003 7:18:23 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: MikeD
Jimmy Page has deficiencies as a guitar player?

None that I know of. I remember when Page was considered one of the best, if not THE BEST guitar player in the world.

123 posted on 05/28/2003 7:18:53 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jhensy
I saw them in June '77, Madison Square Garden. I was 16; they sold out 6 nights.

I was there the first and the last night. 3 1/2 hour gig. I snuck in a tape recorder, it's pretty sad how bad they actually played, JP was a heroin addict and at 120 lbs. drank an entire liter of Jack during each night. Bonham was incredible, you could set a metronome to him, and the railings literally shook with each kick drum.

124 posted on 05/28/2003 7:22:08 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: Jhensy
I saw them in June '77

They were in St. Louis in April of 1977. I don't remember a whole lot about that show except that there was no encore (Heard there was death threats against the band)

hang out and get wasted. And we did get wasted.

Ahh youth... wasted on the young

About the rowdiest concert I was ever at was a Black Sabbath concert in which bottle rockets were being shot, bottles being thrown, and youths being so wasted that their friends had to drag them out when the show was over.

Looking back, well what can you say.

125 posted on 05/28/2003 7:37:57 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: Jorge
None that I know of. I remember when Page was considered one of the best, if not THE BEST guitar player in the world.

The archivist for the band Spirit (lead guitarist of the band was the late Randy California...real name Randy Wolfe) was on a local radio show recently and he related that during an early 1970s interview with Jimmy Page when the interviewer told Page that he was considered the best electric guitar player in the world, that Page replied:
"I'm not the best electric guitar player in the world, Randy California is".
126 posted on 05/28/2003 7:44:30 PM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: BansheeBill
During an interview with Jimmy Page when the interviewer told Page that he was considered the best electric guitar player in the world, that Page replied: "I'm not the best electric guitar player in the world, Randy California is"

Page was argueably the most innovative producer/guitar player, a phenomenal song writer, between him and Grant the best at marketing albums and selling concert seats. However, like Clapton once said, the best guitar player in the world is probably pumping gas somewhere. Randy California was undoubtably the best at reproducing Hendrix. However, I doubt he could have played a single Yngwie Malsteen lead. (and probably wouldn't want to for that matter.)

127 posted on 05/28/2003 8:19:54 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: TheStickman
I remember seeing The Song Remains the Same being advertised as a kid and walking past it thinking it would be soooooooooooooo cool if I could see that movie in the theater

I saw TSRTS in the theater when I was 12, and it got me to be a huge fan. So big, in fact, that I bugged my folks to get me tickets to see the actual band the following year at the L.A. Forum (in '77) .....and succeeded! Without a question the loudest concert I've ever been to in my life, and one of the best.

128 posted on 05/28/2003 8:26:09 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: T. Jefferson
Randy California was undoubtably the best at reproducing Hendrix.

Is "Randy California" another name for Randy Hanson? The latter was the famous Hendrix imitator, and although he couldn't come close to actually duplicating the original, he pulled it off better than anyone I've ever seen.

129 posted on 05/28/2003 8:30:05 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jhensy
I saw them in June '77, Madison Square Garden. I was 16;

I saw them a week after you did, on the left coast. ...I was 13. The highlights, imo, were Sick Again, Nobody's Fault But Mine, The Battle of Evermore, Kashmire, and Ten Years Gone.

130 posted on 05/28/2003 8:33:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: don-o
Cream (Clapton, Baker, and ?? - I fergit)

Jack Bruce. ...The greatest power trio in history, Cream was.

131 posted on 05/28/2003 8:36:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Drew68
Still trying to get my hands on a reasonably priced Les Paul Standard.

Problem with Les Pauls is that they've been made of inferior woods since the early 70's. In the 50's they dried out (aged) the mahogany sufficiently to make them reasonably light and comfortable guitars, but now they're mass produced, heavy pieces. Unless you're willing to spend the big bucks ($3000+) for a custom shop reissue, you're going to be buying an inferior product. And if you want one of the original masterpieces from the late 50's when the humbucking pickups were still made by McCarty, be prepare to spend at $50 thousand.

Paul Reed Smith guitars are a much better value, and recently hired the old master McCarty to build their pickups for them.

132 posted on 05/28/2003 8:44:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Drew68
some bands are better in the studio than live and Page was a studio genius!

Indeed he was, and I also agree he tended towards sloppiness when he played live. The greatest studio rock guitarist, imo, was/is David Gilmour of Pink Floyd.

133 posted on 05/28/2003 8:47:37 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Is "Randy California" another name for Randy Hanson? The latter was the famous Hendrix imitator, and although he couldn't come close to actually duplicating the original, he pulled it off better than anyone I've ever seen.

Same guy, great player, his speciality was more the best stage impersonation of Hendrix. I like Frank Marino doing Hendrix tunes, particularly the live album (Mahogany Rush). He didn't do a note for note deal, he had that overdose insanity sound/feel when he played, also ridiculously fast.

134 posted on 05/28/2003 8:51:03 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: freedom4ever
The Zeppelin stuff is albums. I still have them.

Worst thing I ever did was sell all my vinyl. CDs are cyrstal clear, but they lack the warmth of vinyl.

135 posted on 05/28/2003 8:53:50 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: T. Jefferson
I saw Randy Hanson/California in Santa Cruz in '87, and he wussed out whenever he got to a point in a Hendrix song that was a bit too difficult .....like in various points of "Voodoo Child." I was a bit disappointed, especially since Clapton's comment raised my hopes. The guy isn't ever close to being the best guitarist I've ever seen.

Speaking of Hendrix and the best, have you ever listened closely to the "Machine Gun" on his Band of Gypsies album? It was recorded at the Fillmore West at midnight on New Year's eve 1969 (ushering in the 70's), and to this day I think it's the best guitar work I've ever heard.

136 posted on 05/28/2003 9:00:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo; T. Jefferson
Fillmore West = Fillmore East
137 posted on 05/28/2003 9:02:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Grando Calrissian
Not to burst your bubble, but there has been plenty of great music and great bands since the 1980's that people will remember. The Clash, the Ramones, Talking Heads, Van Halen, U2, Metallica, and the Beastie Boys to name a few.

Snort....Thanks for the laugh.

138 posted on 05/28/2003 9:28:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Forget the tin foil, get out the sheet metal.)
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To: Drew68
You are entirely correct sir. Just getting back from a business trip and have the DVD sitting with the rest of my mail,unopened as of yet. The really great thing is, being able to have clear video now, instead of all of the grainy 2nd,3rd and 4th Generation Video I've acquired through the years. Frankly, if I may be so bold, it is my opinion that this will be the largest selling DVD in the history of the world and no doubt the music world (in the rotten state that it is) deserves this double DVD and the accompanying CD's too.
139 posted on 05/28/2003 9:35:52 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier -Than -Thou Socialist)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
'Not to burst your bubble, but there has been plenty of great music and great bands since the 1980's that people will remember. The Clash, the Ramones, Talking Heads, Van Halen, U2, Metallica, and the Beastie Boys to name a few'.

"Snort....Thanks for the laugh".

BUMP---I needed that, thanks for beating me to that reply.Still LOL..........

140 posted on 05/28/2003 9:40:44 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier -Than -Thou Socialist)
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