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Y Chromosomes Sketch New Outline of British History
NY Times ^
| May 27, 2003
| NICHOLAS WADE
Posted on 05/27/2003 3:49:55 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
IMO the first Celts (proto) to arrive in Ireland were
The Tuatha de Danann who made their way from Turkey (after the flood) via Iberia to Ireland where they encountered and fought the
Fomorians who (IMO) were a seafaring black race.
The Tuatha de Danann may have been related to Noah and some believe they may even be members of the Tribe Of Dan
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posted on
05/27/2003 5:35:32 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Pharmboy
I'd always understood the Celts moved to Wales from central Europe, about where Hungary is...
To: Eric in the Ozarks
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posted on
05/27/2003 6:40:49 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Pharmboy
the Celtic-speaking men, since genetically very close to the Basques, must also be
drawn from the original Paleolithic inhabitants of Europe, and probably represent
the first modern human inhabitants of Britain who settled the islands some 10,000 years ago,
This is just great...now I not only have to live with the knowledge that I'm
an Okie...I'm even an aborigine, no matter how white I am...
(OK, I'm laughing as I type this...)
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posted on
05/27/2003 6:49:44 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: blam
My dad's people were Welsh.
To: VOA
We all come from aborigines, don't we now...just depends on where our people landed (or were chased to!)
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posted on
05/27/2003 7:10:42 PM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
To: Pharmboy
We all come from aborigines, don't we now
Of course you are correct.
I've had a few laughs with friends from Australia...we talk about how Oklahoma
and Australia are alike: Home to outlaw Europeans and oppressed aborigines...
(well, not all the "aborigines" got the short end of the stick in Oklahoma...
at least the ones with oil wells and the good sense to spend the money well!)
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posted on
05/27/2003 7:14:27 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: Pharmboy
This is all beside the point, as in a few generations, all of the UK's Y chromosomes will be Pakistani or Jamaican
To: Servant of the Nine
"Well, it makes a good story. If the Romans had not had internal trouble they would have conquered the Picts and the Irish wouldn't have been far behind"
Come on. Hadrian built his little wall to keep out the Picts, who were as gnats compared to the Celts, in terms of the numbers and sheer ferocity of the latter. That is to say, the Picts seem to have disappeared and the Celts, as you well know, ye shall always have with you. BTW, 95% of the Brit histories on this issue [whether or not the Romans concluded that engaging the guys with the blue war paint was a bad career move] are total rubbish. What? You accuse me of bias? My seconds will be contacting you.
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posted on
05/27/2003 8:46:34 PM PDT
by
Bedford Forrest
(Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.)
To: blam
I'm afraid that Tribe of Dan scenario is quite impossible for the English's case. They are only of Syrian-Anatolian descent from the neolithic farmers who came to Europe from the Middle East around 10,000 years ago. They are not descended from any Jewish tribes that formed between only 3500 and 4500 years ago.
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11/29/2004 3:07:28 PM PST
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BJB
To: Savage Beast
Farmboy, I don't get you. Most of the Vikings that came to Britain were men. The Viking-Celtic mixture in the British Isles would usually be Viking-Man and Celtic-Basque-Anatolian-(maybe)Germanic-Roman women.
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posted on
11/29/2004 3:11:31 PM PST
by
BJB
To: BJB
Maybe those babes were only half Scandinavian but nontheless yummy.
Ever notice how some of the scruffiest of men can have peachy daughters? It's an amazing trick of nature.
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posted on
11/29/2004 3:36:26 PM PST
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Savage Beast
(This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
To: BJB; SunkenCiv; Pharmboy
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posted on
11/29/2004 4:19:58 PM PST
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blam
To: BJB; Pharmboy; Savage Beast
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posted on
11/29/2004 4:24:15 PM PST
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blam
To: Pharmboy
Which ones were responsible for the poor dental hygiene?
To: blam
Thanks, Blam. That was interesting. ~S
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posted on
11/29/2004 4:40:38 PM PST
by
Savage Beast
(This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
To: blam
Thanks...that is very interesting.
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posted on
11/29/2004 5:01:19 PM PST
by
Pharmboy
(Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Thanks Pharmboy for the topic. Thanks Blam for the ping. Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)
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posted on
11/29/2004 9:52:09 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
To: SunkenCiv; Pharmboy; Land of the Irish; Siobhan
Long live the Britons!
To: BJB
If I recall correctly, the Vikings brought entire families and slaves with them and established farms.
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posted on
11/29/2004 10:27:56 PM PST
by
marsh2
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