Tax package Bush will sign guts middle class {"Fair" Tax replaced by VAT in "Tax Reduction" Bill}

WorldNetDaily / Commentary ^ | Posted: May 26, 2003 | By Joan Veon

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

"tax package guts middle class"

All, But then, that's what any sales taxes are designed to do. The VAT just does it "better and faster." Urged by the International Monetary Fund, accepted and implemented by socialist governments everywhere.

Maybe Russia today is a better place to raise your children.
They now have a flat tax based on income that works. But, give them a few years, and they will succumb to the socialist power giving structure of graduated income taxes, and deductions and exemptions to government's chosen entities of the day that the U.S. of A. politicians and bureaucrats of today enjoy. Coming for YOUR children. Ain't it grand?? Peace and love, George.

[tort_feasor]

Where in the tax package is a VAT tax included? I think the writter of the original piece is having a bad day.

[galt-jw]

and my oh my, this is in the ol world net daily, a source often quoted by tribalist, hypocrite pubbie bushbots who cited the very same source when critizing klintoon about THE VERY SAME ISSUES. what a farce. less principles than even the DNC.

At least there is no deception concerning what the DNC claims to espouse: socialist tyranny. The pubs haven't even the ephemeral decency to admit they are going to grow the fedgov just as the libs will, take away rights, just as the libs will, tax us to death-as more jobs are lost to tax friendly nations, just as the libs will.

any of you fools who FAIL to vote third party deserve what you are going to get. And I will mock you openly on this forum when you whine regretfully about your lost freedoms and the machines of tryanny and control that will be irreversible once implemented.

After eight years of massive abuse of power by Klintoon, with the powers of the fedgov less intrusive than today, it does not take a psychic to see what will happen with another klintoon, nixon, etc., after massive govt. surveillance and fedgov expansion of power.

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

Currently, the U.S. government is $7 trillion in debt. Democrats, who have opposed this bill from the beginning, project that under the weight of the huge tax reductions being given to the very wealthy, that by 2013 when it is fully phased in, our debt will rise to $12 trillion or $36,000 for every person in the United States. Basically the July tax rebates we are going to receive will help contribute to this figure.

Nothing like paying one credit card with cash from another!
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Guys, Coming soon to YOUR{?} government. Peace and love, George.

[SubMareener]

or should I say, "neocons" have in store for us.

Remember, neocons => Jews. This is an anti-semetic rant. That is why it is so hard to find reason in the words.

[gitmo]

I can't find the phrase "value added tax" in the bill. Is there some legal double-speak that would conjure up VAT?

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

"last week while the writers were still crafting it."

TF, The bill is still being written before and while and after the votes are taken in Congress as have been a few other truly nefarious pieces of legislation such as NAFTA, and GATT, because they were "so important" for our future. Joan wrote an earlier article on this same subject. I'll try to find the original text of the legislation. By the way, When Joan writes that the "Democrats are against this bill because of the VAT", she IS wrong! Though it will make for a good talking point for the next election cycle. We'll see if they bring it up. Peace and love, George.

[HatSteel]

I believe in a national retail sales tax INSTEAD of an income tax. I don't believe it is possible to "phase" in the idea of an NSRT while the income tax remains. Politicians will bring in the new and never get rid of the old.

I know them.

But the VAT's levels of taxation are no different than the tax impact of the income tax. Every tax at every level ends up in the pricing of the product that is eventually purchased by the end consumer.

Therefore, just tax the end consumer at a reasonable rate to FINANCE the government you want to pay for. Then everyone pays tax and at the same rate. That's the way it should be.

Exempt food, housing, and utilities.

[Trust but Verify]

You buy this crap? The woman is clearly off her meds......

[kylaka]

I'm surprised Farah would actually publish this. In addition to the inciteful drivel, anyone eho would describe the current tax as "fair" is a sure candidate for the psych ward.

[Trust but Verify]

Are you for real? Are you and this nutbag author suggesting that this tax bill, which has been passed in both houses and has been publicly disseminated is going to have VAT added to it? This is entirely nonsense.

[ovrtaxt]

You make perfect sense, but the goal here is to keep the sheep in the dark and allow them to think that they aren't being taxed. The gubmint holds more power this deceptive way.

It wouldn't be useful to the control freaks to have such a transparent system, as you suggest and as most freedom loving people prefer. Frustrating.

[Trust but Verify]

He should be embarrassed. It's hard to put into words the utter nonsense of the story. And to think some usually intelligent people are buying it makes me cringe.

[EggsAckley]

you will be taxed on the cost of the shirt which also includes the tax that was paid at each phase. Will the price of the shirt increase – absolutely! So will the cost of living.

Now there's your basic problem: it STARTED OUT as a pair of PANTS, then by the time it got to the store, it turned into a SHIRT!

[Dog Gone]

I'm surprised Farah would actually publish this

I'm not. As far as I can tell, about 80% of WND is utter garbage.

[Jorge]

Where in the tax package is a VAT tax included?

Yes..where is the VAT?...and why hasn't it been mentioned in any of the other numerous articles detailing the tax package?

[Dog Gone]

any of you fools who FAIL to vote third party deserve what you are going to get. And I will mock you openly on this forum

Oh goodie. I can't wait.

[HatSteel]

There's a small part of me that says we could "phase" in national sales tax. But then I remember that I'm talking about politicians remaining honorable. At that point, I wake up from the nightmare.