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Families combat violence -FBI est. 50% of women in US will be involved in a violent relationship
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Posted on 05/26/2003 6:02:53 AM PDT by chance33_98

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The FBI estimates 50 percent of women in the United States will be involved in a violent relationship some time in their lives.

Wonder how they got that number? (Random # generator?)

1 posted on 05/26/2003 6:02:54 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
I don't believe that.
2 posted on 05/26/2003 6:05:07 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
Perhaps they watered down the meaning to include any time a voice is raised...
3 posted on 05/26/2003 6:17:16 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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The headline makes it look like 50% of married women are routinely beaten by their husbands. In fact, it means that half of all women, at some time in their lives, have been involved in a marriage, shackup or dating relationship where at least one incident involved some pushing, shoving or hitting. So voila, a 50% rate of "domestic violence."

BTW, I'm sure a lot of guys out there have been slapped, pushed or shoved by a wife, shackup or date. Maybe even 50%?
4 posted on 05/26/2003 6:19:24 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: chance33_98
Just as the meaning of "abuse" and "rape" has been watered down by the feminist left.
5 posted on 05/26/2003 6:19:25 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: chance33_98
A raised voice or cursing at a domestic partner is considered domestic violence as far as arrest and conviction are concerned...
How they "cook the books" on crime...
6 posted on 05/26/2003 6:24:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Kinda like lynx hair in a national forest
7 posted on 05/26/2003 6:25:07 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: chance33_98
We can solve this with a commission.

Bill Clinton will head it, and all women will be told to "put some ice on it"

8 posted on 05/26/2003 6:26:09 AM PDT by Drango (There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binaries, and those that don't.)
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To: chance33_98
They get these numbers by defining violence down. Being yelled at is now being abused. More clients for the system.
9 posted on 05/26/2003 6:27:00 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Judith Anne
The feminist definition of rape is any sexual act - with a man.
10 posted on 05/26/2003 6:31:40 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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The headline makes it look like 50% of married women are routinely beaten by their husbands. In fact, it means that half of all women, at some time in their lives, have been involved in a marriage, shackup or dating relationship where at least one incident involved some pushing, shoving or hitting.

Even then the figure seems high. Maybe they include things like a man hitting a wall or table out of anger.

11 posted on 05/26/2003 6:32:21 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: chance33_98
Don't have time to do a detailed study, but I found This PDF DOCUMENT from the FBI, stating that in 1995, there were 58, 538 incidents of "family violence" in 1995 (includes robbery and "intimidation" incidents).
Assuming the U.S. female population is 140,000,000, that's 0.000418, or 0.04 percent.
So, a person stands a 0.04% chance of FV per year.
If she lives for 75 years, that's a collective chance of 3.1 percent (75 * 0.000418).

How do you get from there to "The FBI estimates 50 percent of women in the United States will be involved in a violent relationship some time in their lives."?

Am I missing something?

12 posted on 05/26/2003 6:35:43 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: glockmeister40
Yes, and one of the things that infuriates me about that definition is the way it minimizes the pain of genuine rape.
13 posted on 05/26/2003 6:37:38 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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50% of women in US will be involved in a violent relationship

corollary %0% of all men are involved in violent relationships! Yikes! Shocked, I'm shocked!

14 posted on 05/26/2003 6:38:52 AM PDT by STD
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Errr, 50% of all men are involved in violent relationships. Shocked, I'm shocked
15 posted on 05/26/2003 6:39:54 AM PDT by STD
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To: chance33_98
Worse than random number generated ... they found it in an article in Oprah who found it in Mother Jones who found it ....
16 posted on 05/26/2003 6:42:36 AM PDT by altura (been there, done that ...but not well)
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To: FITZ
Even then the figure seems high. Maybe they include things like a man hitting a wall or table out of anger.

Probably also had to include women who were were in the adjacent apartment when the guy hit the wall.

BTW, notice how the list includes "girlfriends" of women who are battered. Homosexual and lesbian relationships are noted for high levels of violence. Including this skews the numbers further, while still making men look like the culprits.

17 posted on 05/26/2003 6:42:43 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: chance33_98
It's nothing we can't handle with a $50 billion budget and twenty-five rooms full of bureaucrats!
18 posted on 05/26/2003 6:42:54 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: chance33_98
the answer how they got that number is either A) they have exaggerated the real abuse with minor stuff or B) their sample ignores repeat abusees.

We see the same women over and over again. They get rid of one boyfriend and get another just as bad. See the statistic about "37% of women treated for trauma in Emergency rooms have been abused"?

It's probably higher.

If you are a profession "victim", you often take drugs, legal or illegal. So you have more DUI type accidents, both in motor vehicles or in being a klutz and falling or cutting yourself in the kitchen etc.(both legal and illegal tranquillizers slow your reflexes.)

Then too you have to take into account minor stuff. I had a teenaged son throw a cup of coffee at me. So I'd have to say yes to "domestic abuse". The fact he did it once and I had him arrested and only had the charges dropped by having him move out and attend anger management counselling made this a one time problem. But it still would count as "abuse" on the statistics.
19 posted on 05/26/2003 6:46:11 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: mlmr
Same old bag o' tricks.

Hey, I hear 2/3 of all college students will get raped ...

20 posted on 05/26/2003 6:50:15 AM PDT by Yeti
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