Life clues on Red Planet

bbcnews.com ^ | may-24-2003 | By Dr David Whitehouse

[razorbak]

I was not impugning anyone who participated in a NASA space mission. Those missions are based on proven science, physics, aerodynamics, etc. But there do seem to many to be some associated with NASA that announce some new finding that appeals to the pop-science crowd, and then on further study they slowly back away during the months after [as in the case with the "Mars rocks" which were touted originally as virtual proof of life on Mars]. I won't believe anyone who says that NASA doesn't engage in self-beneficial PR. But maybe I've read too many articles by individuals commenting on NASA data, not articles produced by NASA itself.

[Jeremiah Jr]

Har, har, har, now drop the mouse and step away from the keyboard!

The gang's all here!

[Consort]

[general_re]

Where's the ka-boom?

"Illudium Pu-36 Explosive Space Modulator" placemarker... ;)

[Buckeroo]

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"The search for life on Mars is a distraction only, and not an acceptable program for our scientists and countries. We are aiming far below our capability. There should be a manned expedition to Mars underway already with the intent to found a settlement or at least a science outpost eventually. There may or may not be life on Mars now, but there will be as soon as we get the program in gear. " -- RightWhale

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You mean, we can just assume that Mars is for the taking? What if our colonization efforts create a slave state with the local folks or something?

[Boiler Plate]

The God of the Bible is proclaimed to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, with an majesty that is infinitely incomprehensible in its totality. If God exists, and he is such a God, this Self-Existent One, the Eternal I AM, would have no more need to creat 1,000 planets with life than only 1. His glory would not be enhanced or diminished regardless of which number is correct. If such a God chose to create life on other planets, then it exists whether we will ever know it or not. But the evolutionist NEEDS life to exist because, when certain conditions are right, especially the presence of water, and enough time is available, his belief in spontaneous generation makes it virtually inevitable that life will spring from inanimate material again and again.

RB,

Before you go telling God what he needs to do or not do, try reading His Word. You might find that He didn't need to do any of it but did he did it just because He wanted to.

Revalation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

However you will soon have the opportunity to discuss this with Him personally, if you think he over did it.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

[Boiler Plate]

Marvin was simply the funniest character in the whole Looney line up.

[Calvin Locke]

Well, I hope they decided on a single measurement system when designing and building one or the other.

That, and consulting Richard C. Hoagland on the matter. You do know he's friends with Walter Cronkite and Arthur Clarke?
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[razorbak]

You missed where I'm coming from, friend. I agree wholeheartedly with the verse you quoted, and I am intimately acquainted with the Amighty on the basis of Christ's finished work of redemption. I did not say God needed to do or didn't need to do anything. I was arguing against the view that God needed to creat life on one planet or 1000. I was postulating what some people say about God, not my own view. And by the way, I look forward to meeting my Maker and my Redeemer whether it happens at the time of my death, or at the Second Coming of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Psa.115:2 Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God? 3 But our God is in the heavens: He has done whatsoever he has pleased.

Daniel 4:35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will in the army of heaven And among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, "What have You done?"

[razorbak]

You missed where I'm coming from, friend. I agree wholeheartedly with the verse you quoted, and I am intimately acquainted with the Amighty on the basis of Christ's finished work of redemption. I did not say God needed to do or didn't need to do anything. I was arguing against the view that God needed to creat life on one planet or 1000. I was postulating what some people say about God, not my own view. And by the way, I look forward to meeting my Maker and my Redeemer whether it happens at the time of my death, or at the Second Coming of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Psa.115:2 Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God? 3 But our God is in the heavens: He has done whatsoever he has pleased.

Daniel 4:35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will in the army of heaven And among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, "What have You done?"

[PatrickHenry]

Placemarker.

[RightWhale]

What if our colonization efforts create a slave state with the local folks or something?

Hillary, is that you?

[Buckeroo]

What on Earth, do you mean? You call me "Hillary" because you loathe my bearing against the pubbies, a do nothing political party that started out creating the Great War between the North and the South.

Still, you don't know "squat." What ashame.

[RightWhale]

the pubbies, a do nothing political party

Better than coming up with short-sighted utopic schemes, one after another. On to Mars!

[PatrickHenry]

On to Mars!

Mars isn't worth diddly. There are probably far better worlds out there. Millions of them. We have to go farther, faster. Ad astra!

[Buckeroo]

So, you carry the concept of "Manifest Destiny" deep in your heart. Who will pay for your deals?

[RightWhale]

Actually, Mars is being used symbolically as well as being an objective goal. While the masses are teeming to Mars, I plan to be headed out there, but to a destination with a more interesting balance sheet.

Being aware that concentration of resources is the key to success in social capitalism, when someone suggests that an isolated private sector person should do all these massive space projects out of his own pocket, then that someone is obviously arguing about where our industrial army should be deployed. Those who insist that space exploration should be left to a captain of industry might be the same as those who think the tax cut benefits the rich only.

[Buckeroo]

Do you realize how much Karl Marx has inspired your thoughts?

[RightWhale]

Do you realize how much Karl Marx has inspired your thoughts?

Yes. So happens I do. Marx was a piker, the German rationalists hit an iceberg. The real deal was Bellamy and the Populists, now known as the left wing of the Dem Party. H G Wells' Utopias make my backhairs raise up, and that makes me basically conservative.

The resources of outer space should be developed, and that is possible by concentration of industrial resources, not as a socialist TVA program but by granting easements and licenses to capitalists. Carnegie, Rockefeller, that kind of thing, Captains of Industry, aka robber barons. Truth, Justice, and The American Way.

[Buckeroo]

Why should government have the authority to "grant" any license about space exploration? Are you, in fact, saying that government owns ALL rights to explore? What about in my backyard; based upon your ideas, I require government to permit me the prospect of digging up rocks.