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Ithaca Officials Ignore FREEPER Objections
The Ithaca Journal ^ | Saturday, May 24, 2003 | LAUREN BISHOP

Posted on 05/24/2003 9:09:55 AM PDT by Publicus

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:01:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Publicus; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
it is up to the press to also ask the questions and independently investigate a story

Translation: you have no facts whatsoever to back up your claims and want to spread rumor and innuendo (in the form of 'unanswered questions'), in the hopes that Freepers will harass a reporter who refuses to print said rumor and inneuendo.

When you want to cite facts to support your claims, let us know.

Until then, you should probably start preparing yourself to begin shopping for office supplies at Staples as you are obviously doing Pine no good with your tactics here.

41 posted on 06/03/2003 4:35:30 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
Behind Liberal Lines- What have you done to help poor Pine and the others?
42 posted on 06/03/2003 9:23:34 AM PDT by Publicus (Come November, We'll Remember)
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To: Publicus; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
As noted as nauseum, to date, you have done absolutely nothing to convince us that "poor" Pine isn't a greedy leech, feeding off the very taxpayers you claim to care about.

When given an opportunity to explain yourself, you hide behind "call the reporter" or "why won't you help," never once explaining why we SHOULD help.

At this point, I can only assume--based upon your presentations-- that Pine is just one more wrongdoer in this, not a victim, and that he, and you, simply want to manipulate this site into blackmailing a little more money out of the taxpayers.
43 posted on 06/03/2003 9:48:00 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
Behind Liberal Lines- If you had actually read the articles and comments you wouldn't be making such remarks since the questions you raise have been raised and answered in previous postings.

I cannot speak for you or Pine or anyone else. My point of all this is that I and others simply do not want our hardearned taxmonies being wasted by Ithaca officials for schemes that do nothing but enrich a handful of dubious characters at OUR expense.

Now, regarding yoour neighbor Mr. Pine, according to the local press reports, Ithaca officials threatened Pine that if he did not sell his property to their pal Ciminelli, they would use eminent domain to take it from him and hand it over to Ciminelli themselves. As I am sure you agree, that is NOT right. Ithaca officials are supposed to serve the public not themselves.

I understand the town's paper recently reported that Pine signed some sort of option agreement. If that is the case, then you are right, Pine has no right to complain anymore. But what about the other co-owners? What EXACTLY happened with their ownership share? Why hasn't there been ANY coverage? Since taxpayer monies are involved damn right I want to know what these Ithaca weasel officials are doing. Don't you?
44 posted on 06/03/2003 10:35:34 AM PDT by Publicus (Come November, We'll Remember)
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To: Publicus; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
But what about the other co-owners? What EXACTLY happened with their ownership share? Why hasn't there been ANY coverage? Since taxpayer monies are involved damn right I want to know what these Ithaca weasel officials are doing. Don't you?

Okay, so here's what you do:

Contact the City Records departmant and ask for all documents under the New York State Freedom of Information Law that pertain to the above matters.

Once you get same, send them to the Ithaca Journal and Ithaca Times and/or write a letter to the editors of those papers with what you discover.

And let us know.

Good luck.

45 posted on 06/03/2003 10:51:05 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Bump
46 posted on 06/03/2003 10:58:26 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
"Okay, so here's what you do:Contact the City Records departmant and ask for all documents under the New York State Freedom of Information Law that pertain to the above matters.Once you get same, send them to the Ithaca Journal and Ithaca Times and/or write a letter to the editors of those papers with what you discover. And let us know.Good luck."

Behind Liberal Lines- DUHHHH! That's the problem. This was done already. Read- don't skim- READ the postings.

BTW, why are you so against holding those sleazy Ithaca officials accountable? Why do you call Ithaca the City of Evil?
47 posted on 06/03/2003 12:08:50 PM PDT by Publicus (Come November, We'll Remember)
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To: Publicus; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
This was done already.

Then answer the question:
What EXACTLY happened with the others' ownership share?
Who are the other owners?
How much did they get?
When was the deal consumated?
What are the terms of the deal?

Thanks

48 posted on 06/03/2003 2:06:48 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"What EXACTLY happened with the others' ownership share?
Who are the other owners?
How much did they get?
When was the deal consumated?
What are the terms of the deal?
Thanks"


Excellent questions. Ask ANY of the individuals below and let us know what they tell you.

Ithaca Mayor Alan J. Cohen Phone: (607)274-6501 Email: mayor@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Paulette Manos Phone: (607) 273-4170 Email: paulettem@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Susan Blumenthal Phone: (607) 272-3931 Email: susanb@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Patricia Pryor Phone: (607) 273-1741 Email: patp@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member David Whitmore Phone: (607) 273-1254 Email: davidw@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Diann Sams Phone: (607) 277-8188 Email: dianns@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Patricia Vaughan Phone: (607) 273-3870 Email: patv@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Carolyn Peterson Phone: (607) 272-8129 Email: carolynp@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Peter Mack Phone: (607) 253-7070 Email: peterm@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Daniel Cogan Phone: (607) 273-2076 Email: dcogan@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Edward Hershey Phone: (607) 272-0590 Email: enh2@cornell.edu
49 posted on 06/03/2003 9:22:02 PM PDT by Publicus (Come November, We'll Remember)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
"What EXACTLY happened with the others' ownership share?
Who are the other owners?
How much did they get?
When was the deal consumated?
What are the terms of the deal?
Thanks"


Excellent questions. Ask ANY of the individuals below and let us know what they tell you.

Ithaca Mayor Alan J. Cohen Phone: (607)274-6501 Email: mayor@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Paulette Manos Phone: (607) 273-4170 Email: paulettem@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Susan Blumenthal Phone: (607) 272-3931 Email: susanb@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Patricia Pryor Phone: (607) 273-1741 Email: patp@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member David Whitmore Phone: (607) 273-1254 Email: davidw@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Diann Sams Phone: (607) 277-8188 Email: dianns@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Patricia Vaughan Phone: (607) 273-3870 Email: patv@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Carolyn Peterson Phone: (607) 272-8129 Email: carolynp@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Peter Mack Phone: (607) 253-7070 Email: peterm@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Daniel Cogan Phone: (607) 273-2076 Email: dcogan@cityofithaca.org

Ithaca Common Council Member Edward Hershey Phone: (607) 272-0590 Email: enh2@cornell.edu
50 posted on 06/03/2003 9:22:39 PM PDT by Publicus (Come November, We'll Remember)
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To: Publicus; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
Translation: you don't have any facts to back up what you allege, you are LYING to freepers and simply want us to harass elected officials, and risk arrest, to further your own personal agenda.

Since you cannot-or WILL NOT-explain the basis for your position, you are obviously either a someone who hopes to profit from this deal (or increase his/her profit on the deal, and/or void an existing deal you feel was signed "under duress") or a complete obsessive nut job of John Hinkley proportions.

In any event, I have no intention of continuing this discussion, as I prefer to deal in facts and ideas, not vendettas.

Thank you and goodbye.

51 posted on 06/04/2003 6:11:50 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
BUMP and Thank you BLL.
52 posted on 06/04/2003 6:39:08 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; bentfeather; jigsaw; NativeNewYorker; governsleastgovernsbest
Lib-

Your defensiveness and attempts to change the subject speak volumes.

Why are you so opposed to holding these characters accountable for what they are doing with taxpayer monies?

Why do you refer to Ithaca as the City of Evil?
53 posted on 06/04/2003 7:54:09 PM PDT by Publicus (Come November, We'll Remember)
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