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Hitler’s Control-The lessons of Nazi history
National Review ^ | 5-23-03 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 05/23/2003 6:02:42 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Roscoe
What is the matter do you love Hitler and the Soviets

I think that a lunatic might see America as the equivalent of those two.

Just as it would require a blind and self-centered follower, who likely would have been equally at home under either the Soviet or Nazi regimes, and ignorant of history to boot, not to take notice of certain parallels and similarities between all three societies. Particularly as they grow more numerous.

-archy-/-

181 posted on 05/27/2003 9:38:39 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: tpaine
Only in your demented mind roscoe, - can that line be seen as 'cop hating'.

It's the most crooked of cops, particularly those involved in the murders of fellow police witnesses, who cry about how they had to do it because of the *cop haters* for their fellow *brothers in blue*. They're really in it because they like it.

-archy-/-

182 posted on 05/27/2003 9:42:15 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
similarities between all three societies

similarities between various lunatics

183 posted on 05/27/2003 9:44:11 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: oldfart
even if a few misguided National Guard groups elect to fire on their fellow citizens, their officers will never be able to go home.

As has proven to be the case with many of the Ohio National Guardsmen involved in the massacre at Kent State, 04 May, 1970. And there've been an interesting number of suicides among that group as well.


184 posted on 05/27/2003 9:48:15 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: r9etb
Your absolutely right on the transitions from Weimar to Hitlers absolute rule.

Its interesting to note a Key figure..who according to authors John Toland, [Adolf Hitler]and Alan Bullock, [Hitler A Study In Tyranny]is in oppostion at times to Hitler and his party cronies.

The Key figure...Franz Von Papen.

The connection of the Vatican to Hitlers solidification of power is evident..as in the 1934 Von Papen public address.."The Third Reich is the first power which not only recongnizes,but puts into practice the higher principals of the Papacy"[Der Voelkischer Beobachter Jan/1934]

Fran Von Papen slides in and is recieved by Herr Hindenburg into the Weimar Republic...this is way beyond Adolf Hitlers doing.

As the historical goes...Hitler transits from period to period with these public confirmatory events...eventually finding their greatest allegence act by the Armed forces which swear oath to Adolf Hitler.

Franz Von Papen was instrumental in the formation and contunuance of the 3rd Reich...He was one of the few to walk from the Nuremburg Trials : )

Did Adolf Hitlers Reich have an Advocate.

History seems to say ....Yes.

185 posted on 05/27/2003 9:49:43 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Roscoe
Curious that on Memorial Day so many cop haters would crawl out of the woodwork to spew their tired equation of America to Nazi Germany.

Hardly surprising considering the large number who are on the Free Republic veterans ping list. They've all sworn to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Including corrupt and perjurious cops who would turn this into a state run by their way of thinking. Especially them.

And the more cops, local state and federal, act like the Nazi GeStaPo, KriPo, and OrdnungsPolitzei the more such comparisons not only continue to be made but are more and more accurate.


186 posted on 05/27/2003 10:00:55 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
corrupt and perjurious cops

Cop hating lunatics.

187 posted on 05/27/2003 10:02:39 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Don Matthews is dead, but his spirit lives on here in a handful of wannabes.

You lie. He lives. And he spent 3 years of his life as a Marine before going on to his greater glories.


188 posted on 05/27/2003 10:04:09 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: kms61
Someone wrote a what-if novel about ten years ago set in the early sixties, in which the US had stayed out of WWII, the Nazis had defeated Russia, and there was a Cold War between the United States and Germany and it's European vassal states. Interesting premise. The book was called Fatherland, but I don't recall the author's name.

Robert Harris. And interestingly, he theorized that since Ambassador to Great Britain Joseph P Kennedy's eldest son Joseph hadn't died during WWII, he would have been the one groomed by his father to become an American president rather than his younger brother Jack.


189 posted on 05/27/2003 10:09:09 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
He lives.

In which corner of hell?

190 posted on 05/27/2003 10:11:30 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: esopman
The Goebbels of our age (Schumer, Pelosi, Hillary Regina, Petah Jennings, et al.) are much more of a threat than an absence of firepower.

Just so, though our potential Himmlers are of at least equal concern. [Hope you've read Padborn's excellent biography of treue Heini] and, of course, there are also almost certainly potential Benedict Arnolds now serving in the senior military ranks.

-archy-/-

191 posted on 05/27/2003 10:17:50 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Noumenon
Something as simple as a burning, diesel-soaked matterss tossed off the back of a disposable pickup truck during rush hour on oh, say, both directions of the 520 Bridge in Seattle would be a real buzzkill.

Make it a slightly larger truck, say a deliveryman's cube van or larger U-Haul rental, add in some railroad ties and labor organizer's *jackrock* caltrops or police-issue *stopsticks* and a six-gallon bucketfull of homemade pipebombs on timers [with a few antidisturbance tumbler-fired units to discourage immediate hasty clearance] and you'd be right in business. The tactic is essentially a variation of that used by the Union raiders who hijacked the Western and Atlantic locomotive General during the War of Northern Dominance and who hoped to slow pursuing Confederate forces.

-archy-/-

192 posted on 05/27/2003 10:25:46 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Roscoe
He lives.

In which corner of hell?

The deepest, darkest corner of Hell, indeed: Toronto.

193 posted on 05/27/2003 10:27:57 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy

Eric Taylor, the police officer murdered by Don Matthews.

194 posted on 05/27/2003 10:31:35 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
corrupt and perjurious cops

Cop hating lunatics.

And more being trained every day.

-archy-/-

195 posted on 05/27/2003 10:33:43 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
I must admit it's been a while since I was overwhelmed by sheer numbers of pheasants.

But I overlook the trivial.

196 posted on 05/27/2003 10:35:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
I am aware of some of the precautions taken. Most people do not realize how close we did come. I am also aware of some of the flat out warnings delivered to some politicians as I heard them moaning about them and still hear them cussing out some Generals and admirals by name.
197 posted on 05/27/2003 10:42:05 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Travis McGee
It's those damned feathers that slip in under the armour that get ya. With the tin suit on, it makes scratching near-impossible....

-archy-/-

198 posted on 05/27/2003 10:42:43 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy; harpseal; Jeff Head; tpaine; Mulder
The real fools are the idiots who bury their heads in the sand while repeating,

"It can't happen here! It can't happen here! We're different! We're special! We're unique in history! It CAN'T happen here!"

It can happen, which is why millions of us will retain our firearms, or fight to retain them, in accordance with the wishes of the founding fathers.

I will never be led like a lamb to the slaughter, because in a moment of foolish naive hope I allowed myself to be disarmed by a seemingly well-meaning government turned tyrant.

The constitution shredding commissars in waiting had better understand: cross that Rubicon and they will be in the crosshairs, personally.

That's why I wrote the book, as a clear warning.

199 posted on 05/27/2003 10:48:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
Don't forget the noise of the pecing at the visor.
200 posted on 05/27/2003 10:48:55 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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