Bush makes sure gun lobby gets what it wants

Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 5/20/2003 | Tom (Fear Monger extraordinaire) Teepen

[Reagan is King]

I thought it was easy to see what Bush was doing when he said he would sign the AWB. He knew it was DOA in Congress and by saying he would sign it if it made it to his desk he took away the campaign issue from the Demonrats. It was a politically smart move. It's actually nice to have some Republicans in power that have some strategic thinking for a change.

When a liberal jerk like Tom Teepen is having a hissy fit about it then you know it was a good move.

[Guillermo]

I think she said that in regards to the Nixon-McGovern race in 72.

[TheBattman]

Attorney General John Ashcroft, throwing over generations of legal understanding, has declared that there is an all but abiding personal right to firearms ownership, not a right pegged to the maintenance of public security, as the Second Amendment plainly says. (So much for "original intent" when it becomes politically bothersome.)

The left simply will not accept that their interpretation of the Constitution is flawed. As is the case with most Constitutional issues, if you are looking for the intent of the framers of the Constitution, you need to study their own writings and explanations on the subject.

In the case of the 2nd Amendment - their writings are quite clear - personal ownership of arms (yes this includes more than just the body parts!)is essential BECAUSE it insures domestic security. In no way did they indicate any limitation to the ownership of firearms.<P. My personal opinion is - we will see the importance of firearm ownership sometime in the foreseeable future.

[wgeorge2001]

"Thus Bush escapes any blame for re-arming the nation's nut cases with weapons that can mow down school kids and postal employees wholesale..."

Liberal drival.

[Wonder Warthog]

"No, the only thing that matters to the Tom Teepens of the world is that no one HE KNOWS is an NRA member."

Ah, they probably "do" know someone who is an NRA member--they just don't know that they know them. Most of us NRA members aren't constantly advertising the fact to friends and neighbors--just to our legislators.

[Badray]

Joe

If you keep pinging me to read this crap, I'm going to have to start taking blood pressure pills.

Or mowing down children and postal workers.

(For the humor impaired, that last line IS sarcasm. I don't even mow the grass any more, let alone children and postal workers.)

[TC Rider]

Drug dealers used "assault weapons" as their "weapons of choice" during the late eighties.

Tom is so behind the times. Didn't he hear the uproar on the new 'gun of choice' for gangs, the S&W .50 magnum revolver?

[Abe Froman]

"Attorney General John Ashcroft, throwing over generations of legal understanding, has declared that there is an all but abiding personal right to firearms ownership, not a right pegged to the maintenance of public security, as the Second Amendment plainly says. (So much for "original intent" when it becomes politically bothersome.)"

Yes, if the "original intent" was proposed not by the founders but by liberal politicos in the 20th century. Any cursory reading of quotes by the founders themselves clearly shows that they were unabashed gun nuts of the highest order.

[paul51]

re-arming the nation's nut cases with weapons that can mow down school kids and postal employees wholesale

Ahh, yeah. That's what we do. What a moron

[freedomlover]

Tom Pigpen is one of the many cogent reasons why, when the Urinal/Constipation sales people call me with a "great deal" on their paper I usually say, "I wouldn't have that piece of $hit in my house if you paid me to take it."

I ask them if that isn't a Black paper. Some say yes, and I say I'm white so I am not a target audience. Silence usually follows.

If they say no, I say "does your paper have a racial bias?". It is easy to hang up on someone when they lie.

[from occupied ga]

Besides you need something in which to take out the cat litter.

I don't own a cat

[Wright is right!]

"I think she said that in regards to the Nixon-McGovern race in 72."

And I think you're right! Brain burp.

Michael

[Billthedrill]

Vintage Teepen - two parts fiction and three parts contrived outrage. For him it's always a plot by gun manufacturers (filthy capitalists) and a small pressure-group "gun lobby," never the plainly-expressed preferences of an electorate that threw his party out of Congressional majority on the strength of the issue.

It's ironic that the deliberate misinterpretation of the Second Amendment he prefers would actually lead the government to protecting "assault weapons," not banning them. They are, after all, a lot more applicable to the "well-regulated militia" than are squirrel guns. But hey, why cloud the issue with logic and fact?

[longtermmemmory]

look for more of these hysterical articles. They can be usefule because it out those anti-individual rights people. (there is more than just the 2nd amendment. I am also thinking of individual property rights)

I bet this useful idion KNOWS MILLIONS of nra members support the sunsettting. He wants to disarm those people. He wants this to happen because he sees the "gun culture" as obstructing collective rights, socialized "X", US activity in the UN, sustained growth laws, and so on.

Perhaps not literally, perhaps not directly, but its not about individualist to these writers.

I have no problem with Bush playing politics right now. Rove and Bush have produced winning electoral results in 2000, and 2002. We have to electorally cause the extincion of the Democrat party.

[Redcloak]

Tom should consider switching to decaf.

[bereanway]

That is absolutely correct! First he tries to tie the 2nd Amen. to hunting and then he tries the Militia argument. The 2nd Amen. is protection against tyrranical politicans now both bere and abroad who would usurp our God given freedoms.

Its great to see the gun grabbers suffering these convulsions. Gotta love that Bush guy

[ImpBill]

You hit the nail on the head. Abraham Lincoln said it best when he opined, "You can can please some of the people all of the time; all of the people some of the time; you can never please all of the people all of the time."

The fringes of both the left and the right are in perpetual anger. Why politicians even attempt to "please" them at all is the question.

[Pylot]

And once again we have the liberal Dimocrats in the press doing our dirty work for us. I love it.

I can guarantee you that gun grabbing is not a popular topic in Georgia or anywhere in the South for that matter.

The louder that morons like this scream, the more votes the Dimocrats lose. I predict a decisive sweep of the Dims out of office in the 04 elections. They think they got broadsided in 94, just watch what happens this time around.

[FreeInWV]

A recent study by the Americans for Gun Safety Foundation reported that prosecutors mainly enforce gun laws against criminals after the fact </p?

Duh! That's just the way it works, and this is a good thing. I wonder how he would like prosecuted for murder "before the fact" ?

[gdc61]

........to all those, who for the last several weeks, have whined, cried, twisted towels, and chewed their nails blubbering about "W's" evil back-stabbing of RKBAers and the 2nd amendment........ welcome to politics.
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