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Army's Stryker vehicle a "strykeout"
combatreform.com ^ | 9 OCT 202 | Don Loughlin

Posted on 05/18/2003 4:15:20 PM PDT by Tailback

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1 posted on 05/18/2003 4:15:20 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback
Now called the 'Stryker' ICV (Infantry Carrier Vehicle), named after two deceased American soldier-heroes.

And all this time I thought it was named after the John Wayne character in Sands of Iwo Jima.
2 posted on 05/18/2003 4:22:08 PM PDT by x1stcav ( Liberalism is part of a religious disorder that demands a belief that life is controllable. Ann C)
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To: Tailback
http://www.pirania-kto.pl/html/prasa/stryker06.jpg
3 posted on 05/18/2003 4:27:14 PM PDT by Norse
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To: Tailback
How dare they name a vehicle after him after what happened over Macho Grande.
4 posted on 05/18/2003 4:28:40 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Tailback
I am most impressed that the formatting was not screwed.
5 posted on 05/18/2003 4:32:16 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: Tailback
This is getting old. Every time ANY service tries to implement a new weapons program you get a host of naysayers complaining that a) it doesn't work; b) it's too expensive and c) it isn't compatible.

I heard the exact same arguments about the BRADLEY that the Stryker is supposedly going to replace!! Similar complaints were launched about the Abrams when it first came out; and the M-16.

Every new system has a whole range of glitches. For years, we allowed the Soviets to get ahead of us in several areas because they would deploy a weapon with a glitch while they FIXED it, so that when it was fixed, the entire force was easily upgraded; while we procrastinate and wait until something is "perfect."

Now, there may be good reasons not to have this, but just because a Clinton-era general started it isn't one of 'em.

6 posted on 05/18/2003 4:33:55 PM PDT by LS
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To: John Jorsett
Over macho Grande?, No, I'll never be over macho grande!

Slainte,

CC

7 posted on 05/18/2003 4:34:48 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative
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To: Tailback
Stryker
8 posted on 05/18/2003 4:53:43 PM PDT by Cribb
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To: Lion Den Dan
Are you here? Or there?

In any case, you need to see this thread. I think you'll strongly agree with the premise. Hope you and the Missus are well.
9 posted on 05/18/2003 4:55:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Tailback
Sure could use an executive summary of all that information ...
10 posted on 05/18/2003 4:56:18 PM PDT by strela (Will SIG for food)
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To: Tailback
Jesus! Who needs an AFV? We could defeat the enemy simply by dropping all the paper generated in the Pentagon on them! Talk about too high of a head-to-tail ratio...
11 posted on 05/18/2003 4:56:23 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) ("I have calculated..." is another way of saying "I made it up...")
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To: LS
>>Now, there may be good reasons not to have this, but just because a Clinton-era general started it isn't one of 'em

Agreed.

I'm no expert, but the issues I see are:

Wheels have poor off-road mobility.

The vehicle is vulnerable to 12.7mm HMG fire. It ain't no Bradley in this respect.

It won't fit on a C-130, as advertized.

Heavy armor that can take an RPG hit is A Good Thing. Air-mobile armor is highly overrated; armor almost never gets moved by air. And M113-based designs are tracked and much cheaper than Stryker, and have similar functionality, if you really need air mobility.
12 posted on 05/18/2003 5:01:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: LS
I spent time as an artillery officer and spent two years with light (26ton M-26) and medium (M-48) tanks in armor branch-specific ROTC at VMI in the '60s-- I wouldn't go to war with a wheeled armored vehicle weighting more that about 10 tons, they're simply not as capable. I worked with both tracked and wheeled artillery, and with light and medium tanks. Also older armored cars. No contest.
13 posted on 05/18/2003 5:08:49 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Tailback
Ain't FOIA a wonderful thing. Keep banging their cages. Troops on the ground need the help.
14 posted on 05/18/2003 5:16:29 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: CatoRenasci
My question would be what is Israel using?
Are they using LAVs?
15 posted on 05/18/2003 5:23:17 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: FreedomPoster
I am here. The mission to there is scrubbed.

The rain we had last week put a halt to the ongoing Stryker side by side testing. Too muddy. Go figure.

16 posted on 05/18/2003 5:44:17 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: tet68
They should strike the Stryker and go to the light weight ceramic armoured tracked vehicle developed in UK
17 posted on 05/18/2003 5:46:23 PM PDT by spokeshave ( against dead wood (albore) Frogs & Rats)
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To: LS
The Stryker does absolutely nothing better than the M-113A3 except drive down paved roads. The Stryker vehicle is not as easily deployed on ANY cargo vehicle as either the M113A3 or the M-8 AGS. The Stryker vehicle is much more expensive than upgrading the M-113 family to either M-113A3 or MTVL status. The Stryker has a higher silhouette and is longer while at the same time having less room internally than an M-113. Stryker is junk IMHO.
18 posted on 05/18/2003 5:51:51 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: tet68
i have seen pictures on the news of merkava tanks and M-113`s
19 posted on 05/18/2003 5:52:30 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Tailback
cargo vehicle=cargo plane

oops
20 posted on 05/18/2003 5:52:39 PM PDT by Tailback
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