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IN REVERSAL, PLAN FOR IRAQ SELF-RULE HAS BEEN PUT OFF
The New York Times ^ | May 17, 2003 | Patrick E. Tyler

Posted on 05/18/2003 11:24:27 AM PDT by Marianne

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1 posted on 05/18/2003 11:24:28 AM PDT by Marianne
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To: Marianne
Smart to do this now, rather than after things get completely out of control.

This is not going to work without the US running things. Lets get the oil flowing and the lawlessness stopped. When the people of Iraq decide to cooperate, then they will get their chance.

The UN will have to deal with the US, instead of trying to go around us.
2 posted on 05/18/2003 11:30:47 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: Marianne
Smart decision. Miles to go yet.
3 posted on 05/18/2003 11:33:21 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Marianne
Here's the deal. Let's give all nine announced Democratic candidates a chance to show, in a real world situation, their leadership abilities. We assign each candidate to be acting president of Iraq for 90 days. Then, after the 90 day leadership trial, we can evlauate how well these people did in their leadership role. Who knows, after their 90 day trial some might even opt to remain and run for full time president in Iraq.
4 posted on 05/18/2003 11:40:01 AM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: xm177e2
Some of us predicted long ago that claim advanced by many freepers that the goal was to bring self-rule to the Iraqis was a sham. The goal is to police the world.
6 posted on 05/18/2003 12:53:34 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Marianne
The daily story from the Times, once again denyed by Bremer. Next they'll ask him when he stopped beating his wife. Consider the source on this one.
7 posted on 05/18/2003 12:53:48 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: xm177e2
Rebuilding Iraq was the most important thing George Bush would do in his life

And you give him 6 weeks, get real, you sound like Tom Dashole.

8 posted on 05/18/2003 12:55:16 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: xm177e2
Have you ever done anything important in less than 2 months? Why not step back a bit, and consider how long it took to create our own Constitution?

You are sounding like an ankle biting Democrat.
9 posted on 05/18/2003 12:58:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: xm177e2
"Rebuilding Iraq was the most important thing George Bush would do in his life, and he f---ed it. I won't vote for him if he can't fix Iraq. "

So, in that event, just who would you vote for?

10 posted on 05/18/2003 12:59:11 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: Marianne
Now, how much of this article should we suppose is a lie...?
11 posted on 05/18/2003 1:02:40 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Pukin Dog
Gee....I thought we "created" our constitution without a foreign big daddy. I guess those dumb Arabs can't be trusted to do it the same way eh?
12 posted on 05/18/2003 1:08:52 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Pukin Dog
A lot of folks like to announce that their vote for Dubya is going to be lost over some issue du jour. However, they probably never voted for him in the first place, and never had any intention of doing it next year, either.
13 posted on 05/18/2003 1:20:06 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Some of us predicted long ago that claim advanced by many freepers that the goal was to bring self-rule to the Iraqis was a sham. The goal is to police the world.

I don't take a conspiratorial outlook on this, I just think it's a pathetic effort. If Bush wanted Iraq to fail, he would have just handed it over to the UN to rebuild. That way, Evil George Bush gets what he wants, and he makes it look like he's a multilateralist.

14 posted on 05/18/2003 1:37:05 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Dog Gone
Well, I voted for him, and I intend to vote for him again, unless he drives me away. I don't have to vote for anyone. You can't make me!
15 posted on 05/18/2003 1:37:51 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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No, we cannot. Not as long as their remains the potential for a secular influence on any transitional government.

We will have to run things until that threat is removed.
16 posted on 05/18/2003 1:38:10 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: doc11355
So, in that event, just who would you vote for?

No one.

17 posted on 05/18/2003 1:39:20 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Pukin Dog
If the U.S. embraces the old world theory of paternalism, it is bound to fail. There is such a thing as overstaying our welcome. This is a simple social-science experiment.
18 posted on 05/18/2003 1:41:20 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: xm177e2
It is not a pathetic effort; it is actually quite an amazing effort when you consider the challenges.

We are talking about building a democracy within the midst of a secular islamic society. You would find it easier to herd cats.

We will succeed, because we are clamping down after deciding that the rest of the UN countries are invested in our cgifield
19 posted on 05/18/2003 1:41:59 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: xm177e2
Conspiratorial? It sounds to me like traditional power politics on the old European imperial model. Our history of being a Republic which inspired by example is just that, history. It was a noble experiment while it lasted!
20 posted on 05/18/2003 1:43:33 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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