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THE ET's ARE COMING THE ET's ARE COMING
http://www.exopolitics.org ^ | May 5, 2003 | Michael E. Salla, PhD

Posted on 05/14/2003 5:30:57 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: Dengar01
You are certainly welcome to your assumptions.

Of course, my assessment of you

is that you have not had the experience nor exposure I have to such a wide diversity of primary and other sources, data, experiences etc.

Therefore, your conclusions are also quite limited
to the parameters of your limited experience.

I'm told I'm quite funny. But this was not, per se, my goal in these posts.

No, thanks anyway. I have sufficient tinfoil hats to protect the masses.
41 posted on 05/15/2003 12:13:58 PM PDT by Quix (MAY BIBLE CODE DIGEST IS UP AT biblecodedigest.com)
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THEY are among us!!!
42 posted on 05/15/2003 12:17:05 PM PDT by evets (I saw the KGB secret file!!!!!)
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To: Spruce

43 posted on 05/15/2003 12:32:11 PM PDT by ALS
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Whoa...

Clandestine government organizations are going to great efforts to ‘modernize' their weapon systems through trade, treaties and even military confrontation with ET races...

Uh, yeah, OK...

There is a likely hood [sic] that the clandestine government organizations representing global humanity - still relatively immature in dealing with interplanetary affairs between ET species - may similarly overstep tacit boundaries that exist which prevent an overt and large scale extraterrestrial intervention in human affairs.

Yeah, that would be a danger all right...Dagnab those tacit boundaries, anyway - if only we'd ratified Kyoto this would never have happened...

...secret interplanetary wars are already being conducted by Earth based clandestine organizations using advanced military technology...

And to think I turned down a chance to join U.N.C.L.E....

In summary, the continued non-disclosure of the ET presence, and the focus on an increasing militarized response to ET interventions, reflected in part by increased militarism in international affairs as evidenced most recently by US intervention in Iraq, constitutes a great danger to human sovereignty and independence since it may lead to a kind of interplanetary war where defeat would erase humanity's sovereignty and independence.

Well, there you have it. Of course, I have come to the opposite conclusion from the same data - Iraq was just a testing ground - we need to arm ourselves to the teeth with pulse rifles and sawed-off assault phasers and send the SEALS and DELTA out to kick some serious alien butt. Heck, they may even turn out to be good to eat.

44 posted on 05/15/2003 12:35:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: TEXOKIE
Thanks for the heads up!
45 posted on 05/15/2003 12:54:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; TEXOKIE; Quix
Ditto!!!! I didn't know there were so many on this Forum with such expanded awareness. Cool!!!
46 posted on 05/15/2003 1:51:39 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
MOST ARE IN THE CLOSET

as the screamers about the tinfoil hats intimidate too many or too many just don't want to bother with such screamers.

Besides, none are so blind as those who WILL NOT see.

And, who knows, but God, WHAT *ALL* IS *REALLY* going on.

So, opinions are more abundant than the diversity of evidence--which is plenty abundant and diverse!
47 posted on 05/15/2003 4:04:28 PM PDT by Quix (MAY BIBLE CODE DIGEST IS UP AT biblecodedigest.com)
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To: Hazzardgate
That guy looks like he has a swarm of bees on his head.

It's just a trick, you tie a caged queen around your neck. They don't sting . . . much.

. . . and, by the way, the guy that wrote this article is crazier than any beekeeper I ever met.

48 posted on 05/15/2003 4:12:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Billthedrill
Have you or have you not

failed to notice the slope of the graphs of:

A) significant details in UFO etc reports

B) numbers of people of significant reputation, roles, positions, ranks going on record regarding the phenomena

C) quality of the details of such phenomena

--the slope of the graphs of these data getting steeper and steeper toward verticle?

No, I don't have websites with such graphs. But I sure have an internal awareness of such. It amazes me that so few people have been paying much attention.
49 posted on 05/15/2003 4:13:55 PM PDT by Quix (MAY BIBLE CODE DIGEST IS UP AT biblecodedigest.com)
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To: DLfromthedesert; Alamo-Girl; TEXOKIE
FORGOT TO include you as addressees.
50 posted on 05/15/2003 4:18:57 PM PDT by Quix (MAY BIBLE CODE DIGEST IS UP AT biblecodedigest.com)
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To: Quix
Evidently anger and intense focusing of the anger at them helps a lot

Nothing intensely focuses anger like a 12 guage shotgun ;-)

51 posted on 05/15/2003 5:51:00 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Quix
Well, actually not. I don't mean to disparage, but this particular fellow isn't simply reporting contact with flying objects that may or may not be of extraterrestrial origin, he's positing that various governments, specifically that of the United States, are involved in covert exchanges of technology and outright warfare with them, and that such a program imperils our standing in whatever interstellar diplomatic status quo ante was extant before those organizations did so. Instead of a single shred of evidence beyond the verbal testimony of several outright fakes, he attempts to snow the reader with obscure references to the Meiji restoration and a putatitive similarity between this attempt to bootstrap ourselves into intersteller hegemony and the U.S.'s Iraq policy.

The Meiji restoration, incidentally, was catalyzed by the presence of foreign technology but not directly related - it was, in fact, the restoration of the Emperor and his allied clans into power over that of the Tokugawa alliance that had held sway as a Shogunate since the year 1600 AD. Beyond the fact that both situations had an oblique reference to non-native technology the analogy escapes me entirely.

There appears to be even less of a relation between such an attempt to acquire technology from BEMs and our Iraq policy other than the highly tenuous fact that sending DELTA out with zap guns and excising Saddam's nazis might both be categorized broadly as military actions. Beyond that the analogy fails utterly.

For those who have faith that we're in an ongoing period of active visit by intelligent, technologically-savvy entities other than human beings, I'd have to suggest that persons such as this author detract from credibility rather than bolster it. That doesn't mean all stories of visitors are phony, it merely means that this author is not a particularly clear thinker who has fabricated an illusion of events from whole cloth and has attempted to obscure the inadequacy of his case with pseudo-academic references to known events that bear no relation whatever to the case he is trying to make. Sorry - this one's a stinker.

52 posted on 05/15/2003 6:01:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

All your bases are belong to us!
53 posted on 05/15/2003 6:13:21 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Hazzardgate
nice suit there in post #18
54 posted on 05/15/2003 8:25:05 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: Mulder
I can readily see the truth of that.

Have you read many first hand experiences of farmers, hunters etc. with such arms who were frozen in their place ALMOST as quickly as they FIRST BEGAN TO THINK about using it--when they HAD THE ARMS IN THEIR HANDS ALREADY and didn't even have to reach for them as they might have had to do in bed?

It appears to be quite tricky indeed to be able to intercept/get the jump on the mind control/muscle control mechanism the ET's evidently use.
55 posted on 05/15/2003 9:20:32 PM PDT by Quix (MAY BIBLE CODE DIGEST IS UP AT biblecodedigest.com)
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To: Billthedrill
I can easily grant you the flaws you pointed out in this author's piece.

Perhaps I've grown to take huge portions of such in this field as chaff/error/disinformation/hogwash/whatever rather routinely.

I try to focus on the commonalities from a diversity of sources. Then if flakey sources have something interesting to say about things that have appeared as a commonality among a diversity of better sources, I sort of note that as additionally interesting.

I don't think anyone--even the DISCLOSURE PROJECT are more than remotely close to beginning to think about starting to commence to get the slightest major--certainly the slightest comprehensive handle on this complex, mystifying, contradictory, etc. set of phenomena.
56 posted on 05/15/2003 9:25:22 PM PDT by Quix (MAY BIBLE CODE DIGEST IS UP AT biblecodedigest.com)
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