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New York Times was too good to be true (National Post vs NYT)
National Post ^ | May 14 2003 | Robert Fulford

Posted on 05/14/2003 8:56:59 AM PDT by knighthawk

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21 posted on 05/14/2003 11:06:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: MEG33
Can't see using 'truth' and 'New York Times' in the same article..
22 posted on 05/14/2003 11:53:12 AM PDT by Warren
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To: Grampa Dave
Super graphic.

The fly in the ointment, of course, is that under its new ownership the National Post appears to be headed down the same dead end as the NYT.

Apparently they have fired Mark Steyn, although it doesn't seem to be official yet.
23 posted on 05/14/2003 12:29:56 PM PDT by tictoc (On FreeRepublic, discussion is a contact sport.)
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To: knighthawk
Robert Fulford bump.

It seems like the old coot's just warming up!

I hope he writes for many years.
24 posted on 05/14/2003 12:41:47 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Billthedrill
I'm starting to realize that affirmative action is just like "good communism". Liberals keep saying the reason communism hasn't worked in the past is because it was never implemented properly. But of course we know by definition, it cannot, because communism will always turn into some kind of terrible totalitarian kind of rule. It's all because there are dishonest people who will corrupt the system.

I think the same idea holds for affirmative action. By its nature, it can never be implemented properly. Dishonest people always find a way to con the system.
25 posted on 05/14/2003 12:42:32 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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To: knighthawk
Yawn.

NYT lost credibility with me 30 years ago. Who didn't know they were a bunch of Liberal panyy weight Liars?

No NEWS here.

Move on.

26 posted on 05/14/2003 1:13:33 PM PDT by austinite
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I hadn't heard that but if true I hope the Toronto Sun picks him up. That's a paper that actually makes money.
27 posted on 05/14/2003 1:26:05 PM PDT by xp38
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To: knighthawk
The New York Times is now Number 1 on the New York Times' Best-Selling Fiction List.
28 posted on 05/14/2003 1:28:04 PM PDT by kevao
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Lets hope that the NY Post is not headed down the road that the Slimes is headed down.

Keep us posted!
29 posted on 05/14/2003 10:23:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: tictoc
Fired Mark Steyn? New ownership? National Post is on my favorites list..easy to delete.
30 posted on 05/15/2003 2:26:10 AM PDT by MEG33
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I don't usually crosspost forum comments written by someone else on another forum (bad netiquette), but in this case I hope Admin Moderator will allow me to do so.

At Little Green Footballs, forum member "Lickmuffin" had this to say about the Canadian newspaper scene.

He/she is writing about the Toronto Star, but I dare say every word fits the NY TImes just as well. Here it is:

Damn it all to hell. Buncha [expletive deleted] morons.

I live near Toronto so I see the hard copies of the Toronto dailies all the time -- usually lining my cats' litter pans. But the National Post was always last into the pan -- I guess you could say it was on top.

The leader in circulation is The Toronto Star. They are Canada's White Guilt Paper. They are what you read when you're a yuppy with an SUV and a condo on the lakefront and you want to feel connected and involved in the social issues of the day -- but you don't want to get your hands dirty. There's a huge freakin' market for that sort of stance in Canada.

I try not to get upset at the garbage put forth by The Star's editorial group or its communists -- er... columnists. There is absolutely no way they seriously believe what they are publishing. They can't possibly be for real.

For example: the Star is anti-private property, anti-private transportation (anti-car), horribly pro-socialist, anti-consumer, and so on. And yet... every Saturday, there are HUGE "New In Homes" and "Condo Living" sections in the paper. Almost always a double-section "Wheels" supplement. And gobs of advertising from the upper-upscale shopping districts from all the major Canadian cities (both of them).

They play Socialist, but they are just doing it to move ad space.

To compete with this, the Globe and Mail -- once Canada's traditional right-leaning paper -- has had several make-overs in recent years. The make-overs have extended from fonts and layout to editorial policy and commentary. The carry Naomi Klein, fer chrissakes. When I first saw her in the pages of The Globe and Mail, two thoughts came to mind:

* they're competing with the Star for the guilt franchise, and

* damn, but she sure has the "cross-eyed insanity of fervent belief" look down pat.

I was hoping that the National Post would stand out and challenge these two lefty wusses, but I guess not. I suspect that it's going for the gusto -- or perhaps the gutless -- and it's going to try to grab a share of The Star's market.

I'm not sure if this says more about the nature of the press in Canada or if it says more about our urban middle- and upper-middle- middle-class population. I think there is room in this country for three "national" papers -- I just don't think there is room in this country for a paper with independent thought.

It looks like we're going to have to rely on The Toronto Sun to be our conservative paper. If it weren't for all of the fly-by-night it-fell-off-a-truck-yesterday audio/video equipment ads in that paper, I would read it more often. Perhaps.

Humph.


31 posted on 05/15/2003 10:30:35 AM PDT by tictoc (On FreeRepublic, discussion is a contact sport.)
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I can't believe what's happening in Canada! Thanks for posting.Here comes the Sun!
32 posted on 05/15/2003 12:13:34 PM PDT by MEG33
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