Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve

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[f.Christian]

Get an advanced degree in evolution and skip reality -- hard science too !

[longshadow]

You forgot "chimps have tails, and there are no plant phyla."

Sigh.... so many blunders; so little time. He is so prolific with his science bloopers that I fear I may never catch up with them all.

[AndrewC]

No, we insult you because you make stupid statements, Mr. "1720 is a really big number."

I rather think you(in the general, not you in the specific) have a habit of insult. It fairly obvious to even the most recently versed student of exponents that what was intended by 1⁷²⁰ was 10⁷²⁰, a mere twitch of a finger on the keyboard, something quite often seen on these threads. But instead of ignoring it other than stating "I think you meant 10⁷²⁰", you have made it into a cottage industry of insult. You have made stupid mistakes. How often do you see them brought up? When you made them were you insulted?. Or were you corrected?

Yeah, those people that ridicule President Bush on his strateegery look pretty smart right now.

[null and void]

As I said, his willfull ignorance is utterly breathtaking.

[longshadow]

*****I'm almost afraid to ask what sort of mysticism is proposed as an alternative ... *****

It's already on fllm in the "Handmaid's Tale": http://us.imdb.com/Title?0099731

I remember seeing it in theatrical release; it was mortifying.

[longshadow]

I think we ought to collect up the sort of rationally obtained knowledge which is denied here, and preserve it for future generations to rediscover after the end of the coming Second Dark Ages.

They tried that once. It was called the Library at Alexandria.

The "Primitive Deconstructionists" burned it.

[null and void]

Ever read one of Asimov's best-known stories -- Nightfall? Well worth a look in this context.

Yes. But avoid the movie! It is almost, but not quite, totally unlike the short story.

On second thought, it's the g3k version of the book, an interesting side by side comparison of Asimov's rationality and gk3's ummm, uh...

[null and void]

A lot to be said for clay tablets...

[longshadow]

A lot to be said for clay tablets...

Not if you have to rely on them to take notes in class!

[VadeRetro]

It isn't the stupid mistakes. It's the way Holy Warriors--locked as they are in the never-ending struggle against a vast conspiracy of evil, dumb people-- never, never, never eat the crow when it's warm. They never eat it at all. They ignore, or they imagine that they escape under a barrage of distraction. The inability to concede the painfully obvious is the joke, and it's a great one. It's a guy dancing around naked pretending he's got the greatest set of new clothes ever. The whole public pathology has fascinated me for years, but it's starting to get old.

[AndrewC]

They tried that once. It was called the Library at Alexandria.

The "Primitive Deconstructionists" burned it.

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Fire hits Alexandria library

The new library opened in October

A fire has broken out in Egypt's newly-opened Alexandria library, and 29 people have been rushed to local hospitals suffering from smoke inhalation.

The fire was blamed on a short circuit.

The extent of damage at Bibliotheca Alexandrina has yet to be determined, but the fire appeared to be restricted to fourth-floor administrative offices.

Sixteen fire engines rushed to the scene and put out the blaze in about 45 minutes. Fifteen ambulances were seen outside the evacuated library.

"We were evacuated to outside, then [the] fire department arrived. The smoke [has] stopped now - everybody is safe, thank God," Leila Dewidar, head of the library's grants division, said.

Student spectators

Fire contributed to the destruction of the original Alexandria library, one of the world's great centres of learning in the ancient world.

[AndrewC]

It isn't the stupid mistakes.

I suppose you'll call it distraction when I point out that your statement belies the statement I was replying to.

No, we insult you because you make stupid statements,

[longshadow]

They ignore, or they imagine that they escape under a barrage of distraction. The inability to concede the painfully obvious is the joke, and it's a great one. It's a guy dancing around naked pretending he's got the greatest set of new clothes ever.

What's even more interesting is how the "Holier-than-thou" rush to defend "G3k" when he's being taunted for a mistake he wouldn't even acknowledge for TWO days, but nary a word was heard from them when "G3k" savagely attacked "Junior" for CORRECTLY pointing out Gore's error regarding his claim for "wildly elliptical" planetary orbits. "Gore" had the audacity to slime "Junior" by saying "You don't know beans about Astronomy." Where were the "self-appointed defenders of propriety, decorum, and civility" while this was happening? Where are they now? MIA, I guess, ....... except when they feel like defending the indefensible.

[AndrewC]

Junior" for CORRECTLY pointing out Gore's error regarding his claim for "wildly elliptical"

Let me see, how many times on this thread has Gore3000 attacked Junior for this "offense". How many times in the last 3 months has Gore3000 attacked Junior for this "offense". Count the times and the different individuals that have resorted to ridicule.

Why don't you go and ridicule Cancerweb for this definition?

phylum

<biology> The second highest taxonomic classification for the kingdom Animalia (animals), between kingdom level and class level.

(07 May 1998)

[Junior]

How do you explain his other howlers (wildly-elliptical orbits, chimps have tails, there are no plant phyla, a circle is not an ellipse, etc.)? If it had been just one gaffe, he could walk away unscathed and chalk it up to a typo. However, he has a history of such gaffes, and he compounds his errors by attempting to defend them, even going so far as to claim others are making it all up (and then we have to post all those posts again to show him up).

[PatrickHenry]

The sun is powered by fission¹, a chemical² reaction, and "phylum" refers only to animals³. Placemarker.

[f.Christian]

Evolution ... cannibalized science and collapsed minds --- thought rot (( germs // virus )) !

Main Entry: can·ni·bal
Pronunciation: 'ka-n&-b&l
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin Canibalis Carib, from Spanish Caníbal, from Taino Caniba, of Cariban origin; akin to Carib kari< glottalstop >na Carib, person
Date: 1553
: one that eats the flesh of its own kind

[AndrewC]

If it had been just one gaffe, he could walk away unscathed and chalk it up to a typo.

Gaffes are the rule not the exception on these threads. And Gore3000 is not the only one that may be wrong and not admit it. Long ago someone attempted to draw me into an argument when they thought Gore3000 was wrong. I refused to comply and maintained my distance for some time until it became apparent that insult and derision were not going to abate. I then looked up a source with a position on the question and provided citations and a link. This source agreed with Gore3000. In that thread the argument ceased but the other side did not admit anything. Later in a different thread, I recall, the same argument against Gore3000 was brought up. BTW the source was Talk-origins.

That is one point, but the more relevant point is that "looking someone in the eye" and stating something derogatory is much more acceptable than constant "gossiping and sniping" with the same statements.

[Heartlander]

Yep!

Square circle – faith without reason – criticize others for their beliefs and refuse to share your own…

Placemarker Placemarker and Spam Spam…

Happy Memorial Day Weekend!

[balrog666]

Gaffes are the rule not the exception on these threads. And Gore3000 is not the only one that may be wrong and not admit it.

I disagree with your premise, spelling errors aside. And the evos are positively eager to admit their mistakes and correct them compared to the average Young-Earth-Creationist.

But, back to the point, has the AntiPope excommunicator *EVER* admitted to a making any of these mistake? EVER? Or corrected them in subsequent posts?

Well, allow me to point put that since the answer is a big, fat *NO*, he's no better than a worthless piece of dog poop on these threads in that he engages, not in a discussion or a debate, but a unending and laughable repitition of the same old diatribe, again and again. In fact, he is a laughingstock, as the other posters have pointed out. Don't you think the YEC's (or the ID/IOT's that you sometimes count yourself among) would be better off without having to defend his ludicrous posts?

And, more to the point, why do you waste your time defending the indefensible? What does it gain you to defend such a laughingstock? Do you think it raises the tide on your side and floats your boat? Come on, spill it for all of us to see and evaluate.