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Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve
NSF ^ | May 8, 2003 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2003 10:11:06 AM PDT by Nebullis

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To: PatrickHenry
Missed a removed comment bump...
1,622 posted on 05/19/2003 8:21:40 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
I think it was a post by g3k, calling someone a liar.
1,623 posted on 05/19/2003 9:39:48 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: gore3000
Lying as always. I said that Vertebrates is a phyla, not that they are not chordates. Chordates is a more general term than vertebrates, it is not the name of a phylum.

Chordates are a phylum. Verterbrates are not a phylum, they are a subgroup of the chordate phylum. And, by the way, "phylum" is the singular, "phyla" is the plural.

1,624 posted on 05/19/2003 10:23:26 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PatrickHenry
The post was addressed to me. I didn't see it as it was pulled before I got the chance. Perhaps it was about plants and phyla.
1,625 posted on 05/19/2003 10:38:24 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I didn't see it as it was pulled before I got the chance. Perhaps it was about plants and phyla.

I think it was about some article in Nature. If it were addressed to you, it's still in your message list. When you look at "my comments," click on "full" which is in the upper right corner of the screen. It will be there.

1,626 posted on 05/19/2003 10:46:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I didn't know that "full" did that. It was a post calling me a liar (this seems to be boilerplate). I had responded to a post about the article in "Nature" and got called a liar because my answer wasn't about naturally occuring nuclear reactors.
1,627 posted on 05/19/2003 11:06:33 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
LIAR!
1,628 posted on 05/19/2003 11:08:43 AM PDT by null and void (tee hee hee...)
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To: null and void
Perhaps one should say "prone to lying"?
1,629 posted on 05/19/2003 11:10:14 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Nebullis
GIGO
1,630 posted on 05/19/2003 11:10:18 AM PDT by JWinNC
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To: Doctor Stochastic
It was a post calling me a liar ...

Well, what's the big deal? We all get called liars. If you didn't get the post pulled, I can't imagine who did. Such posts from that person are nothing new around here.

1,631 posted on 05/19/2003 11:13:09 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Supine to lying?
1,632 posted on 05/19/2003 11:14:23 AM PDT by null and void
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To: PatrickHenry
I never request a post be pulled.

Even for my mistakes, I prefer to just post a correction.

1,633 posted on 05/19/2003 11:34:30 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: longshadow
After the Great Flood was over, Noah gently eased the Ark down on top of a Turkish mountain range. Once everything was secured, he got off and personally supervised the release of the animals on board. As each pair was released from the hold to go hopping, crawling and fluttering away, Noah said to them, "Go forth and multiply!"

At one point, a pair of snakes came slithering down the ramp together. Noah addressed them as he had all the others: "Go forth and multiply!" The snakes looked at one another in embarassment, and then replied, "We can't. We're adders."

Well, this set Noah to thinking. He bid the snakes to wait there for a little while. Then he went down to the hold, gathered up his carpentry tools (left over from the big Ark-building endeavor 40 days and nights ago, I suppose), and then set off into the forest. He returned later dragging along a bunch of fallen logs.

Then there was furious activity: Noah was sawing, planing, hammering away at the logs. When he was finished, he presented to the snakes a newly built, rough-hewn table. Then he said to them again, "Go forth and multiply!"

"But we're adders!" the snakes moaned. Noah said, "Yes, but I've just built you a log table!"

1,634 posted on 05/19/2003 12:06:28 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: AndrewC
Which, of course, makes my original statement, that a transistor was in a sense two diodes back-to-back, entirely correct. But you still have the gall to continue the discussion. It is now ended. You have verified my original statement.

What you have done here, in your usual jesuistic way, is substitute one field of discourse for another as suits your fancy. One may speak of a diode as an actual physical package you may hold in your hand, and solder into a circuit. One may also speak of the fundamental properties of a diode, as a mathematician would in defining it's properties. To a mathematician, (and this is whom you would ask in this discussion) a transister is two diodes close enough together for the quantum tunneling affect to take place, thereby rendering one of the diodes a controlling choke on the other diode's output. If you look at the math model, or you look at the blowup in your freshman engineering textbook, you will see that it is two diodes glued together. Anyone, even someone with as much weasel blood as you, can verify this in a few minutes in a library.

1,635 posted on 05/19/2003 12:17:07 PM PDT by donh (/)
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To: balrog666
*groan*
1,636 posted on 05/19/2003 12:25:52 PM PDT by null and void
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To: gore3000
Now you remember. Then you go on to insulting me for bad memory when it was you who in post# 1538 said "Of course, the issue is that the you support abiogensis".

If you answer posts #1581 and #1579 in some sensible manner, I will once again answer this once again offered irrelevancy.

1,637 posted on 05/19/2003 12:27:18 PM PDT by donh (/)
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To: donh
What you have done here, in your usual jesuistic way, is substitute one field of discourse for another as suits your fancy

What you have done here is prove that you are a complete idiot. I wrote that something was something else in a sense (You apparently do not know what that means). The person to whom I wrote that replied that it was an "actuality" (his word) that a transistor was two diodes back-to-back. I replied that putting two diodes back-to-back did not make a transistor. I gave an actual example of soldering two diodes together, something that is done routinely every day in the construction of a bridge rectifier. You come back oblivious to the proper use of words and try to accuse me of following the "jesuistic way". Sir, what that points out is not my actions but rather your preoccupation with some deep seated resentment. Now get a life. I will not respond to such a blithering idiot. A junction transistor is "in a sense" two back-to-back transistors. And I quote you "One may speak of a diode as an actual physical package you may hold in your hand, and solder into a circuit. One may also speak of the fundamental properties of a diode, as a mathematician would in defining it's properties."

in a sense

adv : in some respects; "in a sense, language is like math" [syn: in a way]

Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University

1,638 posted on 05/19/2003 1:56:47 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: balrog666
"But we're adders!" the snakes moaned. Noah said, "Yes, but I've just built you a log table!"

I'm sorry, but I saw that one coming from a mile away.....

You are now in the same rarified company as "Doctor Stocahstic" as being a purveyor of some of the worst puns ever to grace FR. Your contributiuons in this regard are, if I may be so bold as to say so, without equal. Congratulations!

;-)

1,639 posted on 05/19/2003 2:40:22 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: null and void
st darwin ... evo gospel --- knights // crusade !

"All that mattered was the defeat of the enemy. Inasmuch as all ethics were subordinate to "the larger political interest," Sidney and Bill were therefore perfectly aligned. And the deeper the stupid, petty lies of the President, the more vital it was for Sid to defend him. To any person with a moral compass outside of partisanship, this seems close to ... nuts --- It was."

Knee jerk science --- evolution !

1,640 posted on 05/19/2003 2:40:57 PM PDT by f.Christian (( Fossil thumpers hate thinking - philosophy -- BLIND in material pandering // liberalism - trivia))
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